What can I say?
I see it differently.
It can stay 14.0 which I also said earlier but it could also be placed at 13.7 as far as I am concerned.
It would stay in the range of the Fox-3 mechanic while the plane itself is comparable to 13.7 as well es some undertiered 13.3 jets.
Only MICA is in the way though I still do not see it being a unsurmountable issue.
While it is the best short range Fox-3 it doesn’t make you invincible. Certainly not on M2K.
It can also deftly be outranged.
That’s not a bet. Also there is no point in arguing when you haven’t put forward any arguments yourself and when your true motives are clear as day.
wowza, that definitely didn’t stop it from being busted asf for the past what? 2 years?
It really is a bet. One you would lose to boot.
I made an argument which I explained multiple times but it is ignored in favour of calling me crazy or some such.
Useful but others have it as well.
You didn’t explain why you think this, you just said this and expected us to take this at face value
When I played it it was not busted. It is less so now.
See which of the two aircraft don’t have it that I showed you
How about including more aircraft here.
Also range still matters.
Riiight
Need I remind you of the last top tier TSS tournament?
Where everyone took one specific plane?
Why did they take that plane again?
Oh riight, MICA
I did.
I explained the play and counter play as well as the mechanic situation.
The answer boiled down to notch and MICA is op.
It’s a tournament.
If you stick to that argument across all Br’s you would have to uninstall the game out of frustratiom.
The situation in a tournament can also favour certain strengths.
Not really, meta is still medium-short range - The majority of top players say that BVR (or long range) is irrelevant
Long range missiles are incredibly trivial to notch.
And the mirage has plenty of countermeasures to do so.
Close range performance is what matters.
Why do you think people praised the short range performance buff on Fox-3s so much more than range performance?
Yes but that medium range already incorporates ranges where MICA is disadvantaged.
Yeah, a tournament between highly skilled players.
In this setup the upsides and downsides of vehicles matter so much more than in normal air rb scenarios.
And the conditions are different too.
The teamplay and objectives change.
Same in prop duels were heavy planes are not favoured.
It’ the same in squadron battles where certain weaponry or performance characteristics are required by the conditions of the “battle”.
What argument?
You have yet to actually provide a single reason why the Mirage 2000s, which are currently the best performing jets at 14.0 and some of the best performing Fox-3 aircraft, period. Need to move down?
You can make an argument that something like the first of the 2 Finnish F-18s are really struggling with the lack of Aim-120C5s, limited CM count, no A2G for multi-roling in NE, no HMD, etc and thus needs to be lower than literally every other F-18 currently at 14.0
You can make an argument that the very limited loadout and FM potential of the Sea Harrier FA2 means it needs to be a lower BR than basically anything else currently at 13.0 currently
You can make the argument that the J-15T should be 14.3 because it has a very very limited CM count compared to anything else, and a LOT of aircraft can just spam missiles
I could even just about make an arugment that the M-Scan typhoons are performing rather poorly at 14.3 currently as they are the only aircraft at that BR that lack an ESA radar and the CAPTOR-M is absolute trash for an M-Scan radar at the moment, let alone when compared to all the ESAs it faces (im not, but I could)
But I cant think of a single problem the Mirage 2000s are facing.
Their radars are fine
Their RWRs are fine
Their CM counts are fine
Their FMs are fine, solid even.
They have some of the best A2A weapon in the game
and the K/D and K/S data support the fact they are not just performing fine, but are if anything, performing extremely well and could even move up to 14.3, not down to 13.7.
MICA only shows its lack of range past 15km.
Anything past 15km range doesn’t matter for competent players.
For highly skilled players post-10km range doesn’t matter
Yeah they shouldn’t go there