Mirage 2000-5F at BR 14.0: Is its current placement still appropriate?

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I am not saying M2K-5 is struggling I also did not create this topic.

No need to explain compression or decompression to me.

You do not need to keep asking me why I think M2K-5 could be moved to 13.7 either because I explained that multiple times already. It is not to different to other 13.7 jets. While we have 13.7 jets at 13.3.

We are not discussing any lower tier strike jet’s here but keep in mind that JH-7A are equipped with PL-5EII and the 13.0 one with PL-12 on top of that. If anything their Br would be increased.

Sea Harrier can not move down because of AIM-120.
Even F-5TH is 13.0.
Keeping Fox-3 at 13.0 and not lower is the most reasonable thing Gaijin has done in ages though the overlap due to compression still is the issue.

The only aircraft which would be negatively effected by M2K-5 at 13.7 are 12.7 jets.
Which is a non issue since due to compression Fox-3 in general is the issue gor them. Wether there are some MICA’s in that mix does not truly matter.

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So other aircraft are under BRed and therefore everything can be Under BRed?

Mirage can not down because of MICA EM

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I would not say one bad placement necessarily justifies another but I explained sufficiently why I do believe that M2K-5 in particular could be moved down.

That MICA automatically makes a 13.7 placement impossible is nothing I can agree with in the current situation.
The issue is the mechanic, not a single missile.

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Why though.

You have yet to explain why the Mirage 2000s at 14.0 are in any need of being a lower BR other than the fact you think they wouldnt be OP

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He wants power fantasy

MICA is the lowest br Fox-3 without launch limitations, with still some of the best close-medium range performance in a close-medium range meta.

As well as it having the best Fox-3 seeker in the entire game.

There is 0 reason for it to go lower

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I did that already.

M2K-5 is rather disadvanttaged facing 14.3 and 14.7 most of the time while 13.7 is more closely in it’s Br range. The only argument brought forth against that is that people believe MICA to be a wonderweapon.

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and how does that differ from any other 14.0 aircraft currently?

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No.

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This is the M2K topic…
There are also magazine depth and kinematic energy to consider.

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And?

You have yet to give a single reason why the Mirage 2000 should move down to 13.7 over any other 14.0

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I did. You keep ignoring it.

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Crazy, almost like they’re a higher br
Same reason the mechanical euro is disadvantaged facing 14.7s.

Should it go down?
No

Compared to other Fox-3s that suffer from launch limits? Yes
Again, let’s not forget the seeker which is magically unique for some reason

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Where?

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We keeep going in circles. MICA is not the wonder weapon you believe it to be.

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Above.

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Please quote it, so far I have only seen arguments that basically sum as

“i want it under BRed and OP”

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The only truly comparable missiles are all at 14.3 and above so idk man

Missile kit is THE most important part of a vehicle at top tier
The Mirage has a great missile kit at 14.0 still even with recent Fox-3 buffs

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There never was a argument made as you describe.

You may disagree but please argue faithfully.

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Because you are looking at it from a logical pov, not from the pov of a player wanting a vehicle moved down just so it gets to stomp.

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No.