It’s a 13.7 made 14.0 because of player skill.
Why play Mirage 2000 when I can play a superior F-15JM at 13.7?
Not as good in boom-zoom WVR attacks, but I’m already not doing that at these BRs anyway.
Overall, the other 14.0s are better at everything except the missiles. (EDIT : I forgot the excellent RWR + MAW suit that gives better situational awareness compared to other 14.0 however). Having 6 MICA simply can’t justify any lower decrease however (meanwhile a 2 MICA platform like the Mirage F1 would be 13.3 probably in the current BR compression land). What the aircrafts around d 13.7-14.0 need is more decompression, just like 12.0-13.3 planes. In general, the Mirage 2000-5F is I would say one of the harder 14.0 to master, but one of the more capable under the right hands.
TL,DR, top tier should be 15.3 or 15.7 and the Mirage 2000-5F would be perfect at 14.3-14.7 (still allowing some full up tiers to top tier but not being in full top tier BR)
Thanks for your replies.
But I’m wondering which Mirage F1 you’re referring to; as far as I know, the only ones equipped with MICA missiles are the Mirage 2000-5F and the Rafales. The F1s sit at BR 12.0 with Magic IIs. There is also the potential for the Mirage 2000D RMV to receive the MICA IR (though not the MICA EM, which isn’t in the game yet); that said, it could receive both of those missiles in place of the Magic IIs, moving it to BR 12.7.
/del
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To start: BVR genuinely does not matter in this game, the end-all-be-all for the vast majority of missiles in the game is close range acceleration and turning. Because defending against BVR is so easy, the majority of kills will occur at shorter ranges where the target does not have the time/maneuverability/speed to successfully defend against missiles. This is the reason why the MICA-EM and R-77/R-77-1 are some of the best missiles in the game, since they have incredibly strong off bore performance and time to target at close ranges.
Since the MIrage 2000 is incredibly good at maneuvering and flicking the HMD onto the target for an extreme HOBS launch, a MAWS and a ton of chaff, and the MICA-EM, it’s far too powerful to face a lot of lower br(12.7-13.0) aircraft where they are unable to win even with a positional & awareness advantage.
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Ah, I see, but it doesn’t exist in the game yet, so I won’t take it into account for now—especially since the topic has been around since 2023 and the devs still aren’t talking about it.
/del
I can’t speak much for sim mode as I don’t play it, but if the control schema is anywhere as reliable as it is in RB, it would be equally as ineffective if similar high skilled players were jousting.
It’s time for it to be placed at 13.7.
still vey good, only thing which i dont like on it is the RDY radars small TWS vertical scan zone when searching for targets
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It is good, yes.
But there is no reason for it to be 14.0 anymore.
It does not need to go at 14.7. It just need top tier to get decompressed and so that top tier planes go higher. A mirage 2000-5F against 12.7 in full downtiers is just criminal
Then there’s no need for it to go down
If your problem is compression
Then advocate for decompression, not more compression
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I dont know, used it to grind ranks 7-8-9 of the J-16 line and it was doing perfectly fine whether it is a full uptier or 13.3 slaughterhouse. If anything it felt like one of the better 14.0’s, if not the best.
TWS scan zones are ass though.
Not quite how that works.
If a vehicle is good
at its br (Which the mirage still is)
0 reason for it to go down
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Still not the way those things go or should go.
I will always be in favour of decompression first of course. Since we will just have to continue waiting for that let’s proceed.
The only reason why Mirage 2000-5 is 14.0 is MICA.
In the current situation that no longer is a sufficient justification for it to stay at 14.0 when compared to other 14.0 and 13.7 jets.
No, it very much is
It has a Fox-3 with the best seeker in the game
and a very good defensive kit
MICA should not be capable of facing 12.7s
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