Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-29 Fulcrum - History, Design, Performance & Dissection

[Panther2995]

Yea its a lost cause.

İ tried to keep it civil and tried to reason with him and he already accused me having biased opinion.

Made me laugh so hard tbh.

[Ruskie_Turtles]

I never accused you of being a u.s. main. I merely said you’re delusional and I stand by that when you’re defending the current f16 fm.

[J_ackal]

he’s here to derail the thread lmao

[Panther2995]

@SlowHandClap

So the UK should just be the only nation held to that standard, to the detriment of their tree. Are you sure you’re not actively biased against the UK?

My Service Record on FGR2 exceeds your entire UK top tier service record, so its safe to say that im more Uk main then you.

@SlowHandClap

Why does it need to cause havoc? Just because the UK didn’t purchase foreign vehicles like Germany and Sweden, they should be locked out of having anything added to the tree to make it competitive? There are already Australian, South African, and Canadian vehicles in the UK tree, so it’s hardly scandalous. Then there is the fact that the RAF itself actually uses the Gripen for its jet test pilot school…

Because Uk is the only nation that didnt recieved any foreign or domestic jet until Eurofighter Typhoon and adding F-18 or Gripen to Uk tree before adding them to USA and Sweden will only cause havoc but you’re just completly ignoring this part.

That Gripen flies under Swedish Air Force designation with Swedish Air Force emblems, its just a rented unarmed plane.

İf you wanna complain about F-16AJ again then let me remind you, we can always replace with Mitsubishi F-2 or XF-2 which both of them will be better then F-16AJ actually.

@SlowHandClap

You think it’s toxic that I believe the game is biased towards Russia? You’re entitled to your opinion, as well am I, but I’m certainly not the only one on the forums that holds that belief.

You are toxic because of your behaviours against other people in here, not because of your opinion on current Russian tech tree. So yea try different apporoach.

@SlowHandClap

This is your idea of keeping things civil?

İm much more civil then you, any sane person can clearly see that.

@SlowHandClap

How am I derailing anything? All I’m doing is replying to people.

Nope. All your doing is accusing us having bias towards Russia while accusing @MiG_23M and @Giovanex05 spreading bullshits with those charts and manuals.

[BBCRF]

@SlowHandClap so are you going to write about aerodynamics?

[Panther2995]

@SlowHandClap

Who said anything about adding them to the UK first?

Then Uk will keep waiting until Gaijin decides to add those jets to both nations which doesnt change the current situation.

@SlowHandClap

That’s a very weak argument. Do you need reminding of how many vehicles in the Russian trees were leased? There are also plenty of vehicles in game which receive armaments that they never used in real life, because we know they are capable.

İts actually quite strong argument.

İf Uk gonna recieve Gripen then it should be South African version, not some training version.

@SlowHandClap

So you would rather give Japan an even more advanced jet just to spite the UK. lol.

İ mentioned about F-2 because it was obvious that you were complaining about F-16AJ its because it is basically a paper plane.

@SlowHandClap

Incredible that you actually typed that out and thought that was a good way to make your point. “I’m more civil than you! Anyone who can’t see that must be insane!” comes across as a bit deranged.

İt actually is considering how toxic you are in this thread.

So if you dont have any valid arguments i ‘d say we should end this conversation now, cause you dont bring anything valiable to the table.

[Giovanex05]

@Gunjob

Turning performance reports are only accepted when using FRC. Please retest and use FRC.

Oh yeah forgot about that, i’ll do the F-16 test again with full real. Thanks for reminding me :D.

Although the instructor shouldn’t magically give it extra performance (if anything it might reduce it), so in a report about overperforming it shouldn’t change much.

[Gunjob]

@Giovanex05

Although the instructor shouldn’t magically give it extra performance (if anything it might reduce it), so in a report about overperforming it shouldn’t change much.

Might be the case, but it won’t be accepted unless its FRC.

@Giovanex05

Oh yeah forgot about that, i’ll do the F-16 test again with full real. Thanks for reminding me :D.

Cheers

[Mytho-GR1]

@Panther2995

Then Uk will keep waiting until Gaijin decides to add those jets to both nations which doesnt change the current situation

Uk should have to wait more then a year to get a competitive top tier jet no nation should

[Panther2995]

@SlowHandClap

OK? Have you forgot what the original point was? They claimed the SMT didn’t have a better FM than what other nations have. I pointed out that the UK doesn’t get anything with a FM as good as the SMT.

Then why did you start crying about Uk in this thread in the first place? Cause last time i checked Uk doesnt have any 12.3 plane.

@SlowHandClap

If you have to call your own argument strong, it isn’t.

Panther2995:

İt is, its just a fact that your arrogance doesnt let you to accept that.

@SlowHandClap

I thought you were against nations getting vehicles they didn’t explicitly buy?

Never said i was against it but suit yourself.

@SlowHandClap

Valuable

Very cheap move but considering your behaviour it suits you.

[Panther2995]

İ already said im waiting for actual backups for that claim, yet you didnt provide anything.

Show me where they mentioned and i will accept my mistake, otherwise this claim is pointless.

[SlowHandClap]

[Giovanex05]

Updated the bug report, thanks again :D

[Giovanex05]

Yeah it’s kind ridiculous lol, when trying to do an accurate rate test with FRC the energy retention and pull are so insane right now that any slight adjustment would make me either go ballistic and accelerate a lot or just pull more than what the aircraft should do

[Panther2995]

He Said Fm is bad, he didnt say SMT is the worst one.

Try harder.

[Ziggy1989]

Really excited to dedicate this patch to both Mig29s. The G and SMT.
However cool and helpful to the SMT the extra CM will be, I still think it is still severely underperforming in energy recovery, even in a dive with no input.

I do hope they do bless the jet with something at least besides CM

[The_Generic_Guy]

In sim, the F-16 is currently capable of beating a Mirage 2000 in a nose to nose engagement, and doing it easily, even if the M2K is flown perfectly. Same goes with J-7E. This is in addition to being the best energy fighter in the game, best armed A-A aircraft in the game for sim, and being the best strike aircraft while also having great sensors and fuel load and visibility. As for the downsides, none. Your better than everything else by a wide margin and in no noticeable way worse than anything else

[Panther2995]

Which is quite hilarious considering situation should be the opposite where Mirage2k does have edge on nose to nose engagements.

[Malekitth]

Reddit would explode if glorious viper is beaten in a dogfight.

[Panther2995]

Probably.

But who cares about them Anyway.