At least in terms of armament it underperforming. In environment where everybody hugs earth is 6x R-73 more viable than 2x R-27ER.
The allmighty R-60M is equal in power to AIM-9M (probably because they have same letter at the end). And you can carry 6 while F-15A only limited to 4.
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Lmao.
You are wrong on that. Hungary didn’t have MiG-29s while being in WP. They received them later in 90s from Russia, not USSR and these 29s were 9-12B.
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Blue 747 MiG-29M2 9.47S with a full screen cockpit and much larger HUD from 2024/2025.
Older photo of blue 747 with the smaller hud
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no way, they put a jumbojet back into service
thats the one i was talking, i read somehwere it was equip with aesa
i saw that aswell but, other than the slighly different radome there isnt to much to go off as evidence
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Well, it might compete with something like JF-17 on the market. Question is, is there a market?
seems to be the same one as the one in the new batch of Su-57’s
seems to be the same as the Su-35 HUD
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Spoiler
Something isn’t right with your source.
The only reason they didn’t receive their MiG-29s while being in the Warsaw Pact was due to political changes. They were to receive them in 1988-1989 but only received them after the collapse of the USSR as foreign debt payment. In other words, they were destined to receive the 9.12A standard anyway because they were close allies and that was the original agreement.
heres another pic of the hud from the front
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Or maybe yours… Every Hungarian or Russian sourse is giving information about 28 MiG-29 (B and UB modifications) received by Hungary from 1993 as payment of the Soviet debt.
There is a nice article in Russian about Hungarian MiG-29s.
Hungarian Air Force also call them MiG-29B btw.
https://honvedelem.hu/hatter/multidezo/in-memoriam-racz-zsolt.html
I recommend to read it. Before the arrival of MiG-29s to Hungary there was also a tender with other jets participating. Even if there were plans during Soviet period for MiG-29s, they were not connected in any way with 29s eventually received by Hungary from Russia.
Umm not just the FAA… Actually, its more of a DoD thing.
Also including literally every other government administration that oversees & regulates civil and military aviation. Lol registration? This isn’t the DMV we are talking about.
Airworthiness certification… It means literally what the name says. It’s a certification process that all aircraft manufacturers must obtain for any design that enters serial production.
It’s primarily for safety.
Okay post an airworthiness certificate for a MiG-29…we have been waiting for a year +.
I can… I also can provide the GOST-RV compliance from the MoD as well. The Russians have certification at the design phase and operational level.
But why? To prove to you that 8,300kp thrust rating is actually the installed thrust of the MiG-29G??
The MiG-29G manual ALREADY tells you its installed thrust, specifically the thrust provided at take-off. All you need to do is have a base level of understanding in aerospace terminology and the universal standards that are adopted. Anyone can learn this stuff. Anyone.
Pilots need to know the maximum thrust the engines will provide the aircraft at take-off. You know, so they won’t die at the end of the runway under varying gross weight and payloads?
This is called Static Thrust At Sea Level, Standard Day.
This is what engineers call TAKE-OFF THRUST.
Standard Sea Level (SSL) is used as the worldwide reference point (15^\circ\text{C} and 1013.25\text{ hPa}) to give pilots and engineers a consistent starting point for calculating performance. This allows for universal “density altitude” adjustments; if a runway is at 5,000 feet, a pilot uses the sea level baseline to calculate how much longer their takeoff roll will be compared to the “standard.”
Standard Day, or the International Standard Atmosphere (ISA), is a fixed reference point for pressure, temperature, and density. It isn’t just about temperature; it provides a consistent yardstick so pilots can predict how an aircraft will behave in different environments.
These are the fundamental elements for a baseline thrust rating these engines will provide the aircraft at take-off.
All agencies (FAA, DoD, Росавиация, MoD) require engines to produce a certified amount of thrust under specific ambient conditions (density altitude, temperature).
Take-off Thrust is accurate up to M=0.3
The Mach 0.3 limit is the standard “cutoff” for Static Thrust ratings because it represents the point where the physics of the engine intake and the aircraft’s forward velocity begin to fundamentally change the net thrust equation.
In the manuals for aircraft like the Su-27 or MiG-29, thrust is typically published as “Static Sea Level Thrust.” Once the aircraft moves past the initial takeoff roll, two competing fluid dynamic forces Ram Recovery and Momentum Drag begin to shift the performance envelope.
This is NOT MODDELED IN WAR THUNDER as shown here
The MiG-29G does not ever reach thrust of 8,300kgf of each RD-33 until well after Mach 0.5 this significantly reduces the massive conventional lift and vortex lift provided by the MiG-29’s aerodynamic integral design in a dogfight. Almost every fighter in War Thunder does not have their thrust modelled correctly. Instead, at slow speeds, the speeds in which real dogfights typically occur, they fall of the sky because the engines with full AB are ridiculously modelled to fall far below the baseline that is guaranteed in the manuals.
Would be funny to ignore those values and just push AB all the time whenever you take off.
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Hah, well those values represent the thrust that can be achieved in AB. So its really important they do not ignore them carrying a maximum take-off weight etc.
Ofc for safety reasons they should not ignore it under any circumstances, unless its life or death situation.
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