Yes, because the jet is really garbage at anything higher in a performance sense. Remember it’s not even a true 9G fighter. It will fall apart if it exceeds 7-8gs flying heavier than 21,000kg. That is min fuel and like 2x R73s or maybe 2xR27s. Its airshow 9G fighter. Not in a real operational sense.
The MiG-29 is 9G from the gate full fuel. Its a point defense fighter with short range.
Su-27 developed by a OKB that specialized in large fighter bombers and interceptors. Not tactical fighters. Mikoyan’s specialty and why the VVS chose it & why the Su-27 was rejected many years as it failed to meet performance specifications.
I am talking about your content. You thought take-off thrust covers the entire flight envelope.
0 Mach (stationary) → full static thrust (take‑off thrust).
Up to ~0.3 Mach (~100 m/s / ~360 km/h at sea level) → thrust is still considered “take‑off thrust” for certification purposes.
Beyond ~0.3 Mach → thrust is no longer “take‑off thrust”; it transitions into the installed thrust curve, which decreases with speed until ram recovery and afterburner effects change the slope.
Remember take-off thrust is calculated by bench I told you this. You guys are clueless.
i think i found the issue its just the thrust overperforming… seems pretty on point for the rest of the envelope… but drag should be more a bit more too maybe
And yet Russia and China keeps purchasing improved Flanker variants while MiG-29 is basically a relic of this point with barely any sales in modern era.
Not a true 9G fighter outside of airshows. My boy, the Russians didn’t even bother putting a 9 on the damn graph…
Do you want the “because it will fall apart” portion of the flight manual? I am going to have to start charging you my boy for putting you up on game with these fighters and how fictional they all are and what not.
Or you can give me sim lessons? Need to work on my radar slewing.
The MIG-29 aircraft has high maneuverability properties, achieved thanks to a significant increase in its thrust-to-weight ratio and lifting properties.
When the engines are operating in the “Full afterburner” mode during takeoff (HO, V0), the thrust-to-weight ratio of the aircraft is 1.14. The lifting properties of the aircraft ensure that in subsonic flight modes a normal overload of 9.0 units and a lift coefficient of 1.5 (the angle of attack is 26°) are achieved.
After it was discovered that the Mig-29 suffered from an asymmetric roll at high angles of attack after it killed several VVS pilots and a OKB test pilot. The VVS ordered the manufacturer to reduce the angle of attack to 21-22 degrees with no combat override.
Mikoyan corrected issue by first extending the rudder chords and AOA was increased to 24 degrees. This is the manual @FeetPics & @kizvy are trying to lump every Mig-29 in-game together in. They are using flight manuals of aircraft that have been completely phased out.
They are pathetic and it shows these dudes have no interest in achieving historical models.
See the alpha at 24… This is the initial production 9.12. They are using initial production MiG-29 manual that were completely phased out (first 100 units.)
Anyway, MiG then added a vortex generator to the nose and removed the ventral fins.
The SOS-3M angle of attack limiter was increased to 26 degrees and combat override (17kg of stick pressure) was reestablished.
All MiG-29’s in game are under performing and capped at 22 degree angle of attack. No initial production 9.12 are in-game but flight model is nerfed like them.
Oh look…the installed thrust in game actually matches up with bookept values. It is almost like the entire aerodynamics manual for the plane is available and that appears to be what Gaijin has modeled it based off of.
It’s crazy that the manual doesn’t show an installed thrust value of 16,600kg total (8300kg/engine) that ZiggyGPT ends up spitting out.
