Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-29 Fulcrum - History, Design, Performance & Dissection

SPO-15. L-150 is 9-19R

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9-19R with r-77

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Aye, im back, the dude who keeps making bug reports on the MiG-29 high on copium.

I took a break from this game, and i came back just today to analyze F-16’s performance as i thought that it was hilarously overperforming at high AoA and instantaneous turn rate;

I started investigating and putting equations together to find a discrepancy only to realize that its performance and drag matches the info and mathematic analysis that i did;

To summarize, the higher the lift of the wings, the higher the induced drag. I can’t be bothered to write the equation here altho it isnt complicated. After that, i decided to check out the MiG-29 to see that it produces TWICE the amount of drag for 8 degrees less of pull @ 671 km/h. To be clear, 42585 kgf of drag, 24.4 °/s, and 22° AoA, which is absurd considering the MiGs small size and weight. To put on perspective, thats the same ammount of drag the Su-27SM produces at that same speed, a way bigger plane.

I immediately started reverse engineering to see what was up and, considering the lifting body the MiG-29 has, it needs to pull 17Gs (~51°/s) at 671km/h and produce ~221 TONS of lift to reach such an ammount of drag with the Lift Coefficient obtained from the Drag Coefficient. Beyond absurd.

Ill start gathering info about this, but i have a theory. The MiG-29 manual has a Max Obtainable G-Load chart, and my theory is Devs squeezed the performance of the MiG to meet that limit and completely forgot to change the drag to match both coefficients, which would explain the laughable energy bleed.

Ill sniff another tank of copium and see how this thing goes.

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no HMD 120s, vs HMD R-77s and R73s. looks fair enough to me lol

i dont understand this refusal to make mig29s agile, its not like they will be the strongest in the game, they would compete with the f16a(which arguably overperfoms but its a dumb thing to point out in wt). its not like flight perfomance is SO important either. no mig29 carries a meta loadout ingame(although the mig29smt and g’s are very good).

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It’s pretty fair tbh. 120A has triple the effective range of an R-77 and, unlike SMT, F-16 have agility to notch more than one missile at a time. HMD is a handy tool but it is not something that makes or breaks a plane.

I’m sure that’s all the details!!

its not most definetly the most blatant, smt has significantly worse flight perfomance, they have an equally shit CM Count.

but lets not act like Having HMD and IRCM fox 2s is anywhere near a small advantage.

its not, but it doesn’t equalize the aircraft either

i think it does personally, but im probably overly reliant on HMD.

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the R73 and R77 turn for you

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I wish that’s how the 29SMT played

its not because of ARB really, but you are right that smt isnt used in dogfights

it’s a BIG adavantage… in a very limited amount of situations. To get a good R-73 launch you have to be in a close range and preferably rear aspect but you either messed up or deliberately put yourself in a extremely dangerous position for SMT to be in.

HMD is a huge benefit to r77s as well

To an extent i guess. I played a lot of F-14, F-16ADF, MiG-23 and Tornado so HMD for me is more of a handy tool rather than a feature that defines my playstyle so we might disagree on that one. And AMRAAM wouldn’t benefit from HMD that much, tallbox ACM is perfectly serviceable for that. HMD would come into clutch if you are in a middle of a furball with several enemies and friendlies around but i don’t think using missiles in this situation is adviseable.

true, but if it had hmd it would undoubtedly be useful, but in the context of R77s HMD is invaluable

Funny thing but Russian pilots aren’t using HMD. Helmet is too heavy and stresses neck way too much. While for majority of WVR engagements ACM is more than enough in real life. New helmet that’s currently under testing on Su-57 migh change that, with great weight reduction and functionality similar to modern NATO counterparts, but current one is more of a liability.

i can see that, soviet hmd really isnt any useful in 99% of engagements irl, its kinda why im annoyed we dont have JHMCS modelled properly

We don’t have a lot of things modelled properly. Still no ECM, still no datalink, still no MiG-29 flight model