Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-29 Fulcrum - History, Design, Performance & Dissection

make yourself a monkey model so you can justify the existence of R-60M for that aircraft, lmao smart.

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Okay. It’s about time I talked about my concerns here and ask for declassified information people have on the RD-33 series of engines.

TSFC = Thrust Specific Fuel Consumption.
In-game the TSFC is 0.89 on dry thrust, and 2.3 on full reheat.

However, I’ve seen at least one citation that it’s supposed to be 0.77 for dry thrust.

As for full reheat, I’ve now seen a claim that it’s supposed to be 1.85, similar to that of F-404 and Saturn.

I’m now looking for legal documentation to clarify these and potentially create a bug report.

Edit:
Some comparisons with JF-17, which sadly localhost doesn’t have TSFC active on.
13 minutes of dry thrust fuel equates to 698kg. For 2 engines, that should be ~1396kg.

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Mig-29 with 13 minutes of fuel is 1531kg.

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Coincidentally if you multiply 0.77 by the difference, you get 0.8445. Now, Mig-29 runs on 0.89 in-game currently so it burns faster than its in-game timer indicates.

The next edit will be videos of both of these aircraft burning 13 minutes of internal fuel, and a 2nd video of Mig-29 with ~1396kg of internal fuel to start with.

Edit 2:
With 696kg of fuel, starting at 1 second, JF-17 lasts 1 minute 59 seconds, or 119 seconds on full AB.
351kg/min, or 701kg/min accounting for 2 engines. Mig-29’s engines consume 780kg/min in comparison. This accounts for a TSFC of ~2.067 for JF-17.

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Starting at 5 seconds with 1393kg of fuel, Mig-29 lasts 1 minute 47 seconds, or 107 seconds on full AB.

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With equal fuel time as JF-17 starting at 3 seconds, Mig-29 lasts 1 minute 59 seconds, or 119 seconds on full AB.

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So Mig-29’s RD-33 engine is consuming more fuel than the RD-93 engine of JF-17.

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I have seen people cite here the RD-33 manual here. I don’t have it myself, but you should be able to find it, or ask those who already have it.

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https://www.airwar.ru/other/bibl/mig29aerodin.zip

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these are the wrong charts.


In this case you should have proofs that this book is wrong.

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This book shows the most favourable fuel consumption, not the right one

What fuel consumption should the RD-33 have on full AB?
Ideally in TSFC.

H=0 M=0 270kg/min

And is that chart part of the same document that ID Heaven posted?
If so, what page is the graph on?

It is way overdue that gaijin reverts all the MiG-29 FM nerfs.

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No, it’s from a different document.

Since everyone started posting what might be leaks, I hope we get a new MiG29 soon, especially a Mor K variant, I’m tired of flankers as I feel this will be the only plane USSR will get while everyone has fun with their new toys…

Idk man I just want a good fun MiG-29

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I would rather see the MiG-29M than the K

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Same but 29k would make more sense to come together with the f18

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Doesn’t mig 29m only have the spo15 rwr? That’s gonna be fun at top tier ain’t it.

Depends of variant.