Over explaining stuff and asking dumb questions to make yourself appear smarter doesn’t do anything to debunk what I said. The F-16 is overperforming as I’ve explained it is. The devs didn’t implement deep stalls because there are few aircraft that have them. One of them is the F-16. It can do double the pitch rate and AoA required to cause such phenomenon in real life. This is what overperforming looks like. Do you deny that it overperforms? There is hard data that shows it does.
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A source you cannot deny is over explaining? You say I provide no sources. Now I am over explaining?
Is this the equivalent of mansplaining?
What was dumb about asking you, “the expert”, what do you think a departure is?
Again,
I am giving you a solid heads-up.
Take what you will from that.
This is a 100% ok & reasonable opinion to have & I do agree to a certain extent.
But do not intentionally mislead the community as if the F-16 suffers from a unique fatal flaw because a report was not accepted. This phenomenon you describe can happen to any other fixed wing aircraft. But does not in game either, you would then have to force GJ to model all forms of Departure Stalls & Deep Stalls across the board. Each aircraft having their own unique conditions. This would do nothing for game efficiency but rather just redundant work for the developers.
Because other aircraft are much less aerodynamically controllable in high angles of attack. How would you even address those? They don’t even have FBW. You would ruin a number of aircraft.
Say goodbye to the Mig-21, the thing cannot exceed 7Gs without departure alone last time I checked. (7Gs is amazing for an aircraft of 1955 btw.)
The Kfir has no ability to control the insane degrees of alpha that are demonstrated in game.
The J-8? (it’s been toned down a little since release, but still). The list just goes on…
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I believe staff did a smashing job managing the reports & explaining the situation in detail multiple times. I believe the dev team did an amazing job balancing the FM. The F-16 is a great aircraft & should be in War Thunder.
With that said, the F-16 FM appears to be non-negotiable for the time being. It is, what it is.
Instead of crying over spilt milk (as the saying goes, relax), we can find other ways to solve your frustrations regarding the F-16.
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By looking for ways to increase to Mig-29’s game efficiency in the FM & convince GJ that the R-73 is the rightful missile for the 9-13 & it should be returned. The current 9-12A’s too if we are that upset about it, why not.
You’re over explaining something that is already understood in an attempt to make yourself appear smarter or more knowledgeable. Nothing you posted contests my point.
I never called myself an expert. You don’t need to be an expert to read charts with instructions attached and then try the same thing in-game.
It’s not a flaw, it is a mistake. It benefits from this oversight. Gaijin has chosen not to model the FLCS, but they’ve acknowledged that it overperforms and they don’t wish to change it until they fix their instructor. Currently the instructor can’t handle statically unstable FM’s.
It’s not crying, someone mentioned the F-16’s 9G limiter as an example of something that doesn’t follow the trend I mentioned. I pointed out that the F-16 is an outlier due to the current FM situation so it doesn’t count.
You came in and made some nonsensical arguments and so far haven’t actually backed them by anything. Instead you’re using this as some opportunity to continue arguing with me without cause.
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It’s not a buff, it’s whats should be from the start. But it’s useless, because r-77 suck ( but not the worst, worst it’s a derby/darter )
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Please refer to the following.
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You are well within your right to believe GJ made a mistake. You are also well within your right to believe it is an oversight.
However, GJ did not chose or refuse to model the FLCS. They explained in detail multiple times the challenges they currently face in which you refuse to acknowledge nor understand.
GJ has zero obligation to explain themselves, especially to you, but did so anyway as it is the right thing to do.
All models overperform to some degree & underperform in others. Game efficiency trumps all. You know nothing. The F-16 was also limited in ways to offset this “overperformance” you constantly complain nonstop about, how your report was not accepted therefore you attempt paint the developer in an unjustified negative light.
All you can do is hyperfocus & fixate on the obvious because at the end of the day, you neither play any of the aircraft you talk about nor understand how game efficiency & balance is the number one aspect considered in WT models before anything.
Hope this information helps.
My mistake & apologies. I meant to say a realistic & historically needed buff :)
The Zhuk is a very capable & advanced radar produced by the RuF.
The R-77s are a little lacking at moment, I agree. But keep faith, the update just dropped & developers are making their rounds & implementing QoL fixes.
(I cannot speak for the Darter, nor the Derby. I know nothing of their performances other than I was under the impression that they are pretty good.)
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BTW The N001VP or known as N001VEP (E for export) is also capable of better performance & is not a copy paste N001 Mech. I hope the Su-27SM is updated soon because I got to say, the copy paste N019 Rubin (still shows up as Mig-29 on RWR, the Mech has a different transmitter) performance is not cutting it against even the smallest radars of NATO at top tier.
Such as?
I’ve already addressed the rest of your rant, now you’re repeating yourself (again). I think you’ve drug this far enough off topic as-is anyway.
None of your business. Just play the game. This is the Mig-29 topic. This is not the F-16 cope center.
I already told you, instead of blaming staff that the F-16 is a mistake & oversight (it’s absolutely not). What you can do is work to improve the Mig-29 & its variants to cover this gap. Or not, it’s totally up to you.
Btw your F-16 games are looking for a little light… many have more games in just one variant than you do in your entire fleet of F-16’s combined. You should try to actually play one of these days & maybe you can see that it’s not so overpowered as you say every update since its Apex Predator’s release.
Lastly, you are under no obligation to actually play the vehicles you purchase (however odd that may be). It would help out a little bit in understanding why models perform the way they do according to game efficiency.
I already have been working to improve the MiG-29. You have not. You’ve done nothing but complain and even then the basis from your complaints is literally just your opinion. You hopped on the bandwagon.
You’ve not once referenced the flight manual or any relevant sources. You just claim nonsense about a 90° AoA cobra and ironically - the AoA is already adjusted correctly. The issues lie in specific excess power & some other parameters.
I have, and still do play all of the top tier fighters. You learned how to play top tier from me. Stop asking for attention.
You’re literally telling someone with 16,000 hours to play the game more to develop an understanding of it… it’s comedy.
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You can do it with FbW too. Especially the F-16 has a “nice” accident history.
On your part, yes it is. I think this conversation was over before it started.
@wasa850 I’ll probably DM you next week regarding the MiG-29 or F-16 if you’ve got time
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That is why I translated this for you. Well not you in particular but yeah.
Hope this information helps.
Are MiG 29’s pylons compatible with Chinese unguided bombs?
Very unlikely
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Depend, if you wonder for conventional bomb, then basicly the same, hardpoint drop mechanism is not so hard to modify.
But with the Chinese, they crack J-11 firmware to arm with PL-x series so if they want, they can.
Sure, I have two nice articles on F-16 departures
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The monitor on the (non-SMT) Migs is locked to copying the HUD now?
Yeah I noticed this, not sure if it’s a bug or intentional
Apperently extra countermeasures on SMT has been changed from Larger Caliber to normal one.
Is this true or just a statcard bug?
50mm