Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-29 Fulcrum - History, Design, Performance & Dissection

holy f** thats a lot, and I’m too dumb to understand that, but why didn’t they accept it? It seems to meet what is needed to make a bug report, a reliable source and in-game testing

My biggest hope is that devs will notice B is соотечественник and give us the action the Mig29 deserves.

Don’t know.But their FM setup is disgusting. Instead of changing the thrust, they simply lowered the drag

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i still think the 29s drag is too high, i can be wrong ofc, but i see the mirage 2000 holding more energy than the 29, like wtf

Drag is not a bad thing for the Mig29. It’s actually just excessive lift.

I do not want an F-16, I want a Mig29. It has the thrust to bulldoze through inconsequential drag.

i mean, with a little bit less drag we would be able to keep pulling 23+ degree of AoA without loosing more energy than a delta wing tho, i think

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The whole point of the cobra maneuver aka dynamic deceleration

A dramatic and demanding maneuver in which an airplane flying at a moderate speed abruptly raises its nose momentarily to a vertical and slightly past vertical attitude, causing an extremely high angle of attack and momentarily stalling the plane, making a full-body before dropping back to normal position, during which the aircraft does not change effective altitude.

I used the Wiki definition because I am lazy to explain in own words rn.

We are supposed to be able to drop speed very quickly on a whim and maintain control. One reason I get pissed off is because the F-16C can sit on your ass forever and its so hard to make it overshoot and reset the dogfight or get a nose on or high off boresight missile shot.

Remember the Su57 scene in Top Gun? The falling leaf? Minus the missile dodge (do not remember how close they were when launched) Supermanueverability was demonstrated perfectly in that scene.

The Americans acknowledge this capability and is why they stay tf away from capable fighters. However, they deem it impractical outside of a 1v1 situation as you are momentarily energy depleted and susceptible to follow up attacks from Wingmen.

Even F-22s always operate in two-ship or more.


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Because a Primary source disproves his secondary source and all the other secondary sources ppl keep trying to use over and over to bug report it

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no yeah, but that wasnt my point tbh lol, i just wish the 29 wouldnt bleed that much speed at the point where it looks like the mirage can hold more energy than the 29, im not even talking about when you pull the cobra or 30+ degree of AoA lol

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i see, so to make a valid report we would need some primary source saying that the 29 is missing thrust, idk, It seems like everything possible has already been done for the 29, not sure if ppl can find any new primary sources

What I have indicated.This is the primary source

Турбореактивный двухконтурный двигатель с форсажной
камерой сгорания РД33-2C: / Под ред. В. В. Кулешова. – Издание
ВВИА им. проф. Н. Е. Жуковского, 1986. – 328 с.
This is the original source

The Mirage can hold more energy though as its far more aerodynamic. The Mig29 can artificially dump it and recreate it at the flick of a wrist.

The Fulcrum is extremely balanced fighter for dogfighting of the same pattern and design philosophy as the Su27. An aircraft mind you that is regarded as having the most perfect aerodynamic design ever. That is not just Eastern analyst making the claim, that is Westerns United States pentagon analyst saying this as well.

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Thats cuz its not missing thrust, in-game it actually gets near 2:1 TWR at certain speeds, even with 50% fuel (for the non-SMT variants atleast).

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what about lift and drag? is there something wrong in that area with the current 29s? (9.12/9.13 and the smt)

Where does this graph come from and what program generated it, myth?

idk, but afaik its performing pretty accurately in those respects as well.

The thing is that we went from the 9.12/13 vs F-16A which were pretty evenly matched to the 9.19 vs F-16C, and the F-16C has a better TWR and thrust profile in exchange for a slight increase in wing loading over the F-16A, along with the limiter being removed on the F-16’s allowing them to pull a lot of AOA as well.

Afaik, the MiG-29’s arent underperforming, and the F-16’s might(?) be overperforming a little (barring the fact theyre too stable at high aoa, in which theyre overperforming a lot). The bigger issue for the MiG-29 players seems to be that they went from a better airframe with worse weapons, avionics, and CM suites to a worse airframe, better weapons, avionics, and CM’s, and seeing as the Russian playerbase has been used to having near total FM dominance for 2-3 years now, they arent able to cope with the change, which is made worse by the F-16C being an improvement in airframe over something that was already nearly a match.

The irony being that the Russian playerbase is having to deal with what the western nations jets have had to deal with for the last 2-3 years and they. dont. like. it.

Thats not to say that western nations were hard done by necessarily, but more that gaijins arcade+ design of air RB places more importance on FM over nearly anything, and western jets had spent the last 2-3 years in the “better avionics/weapons (until 27ER was added), worse FM” playstyle, barring some notable exception periods, such as the UFO F-5E and TECHNICALLY the F-14A in the hands of a good player that knew what he was doing.

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im not sure if this is 100% right mythic, since im a player who enjoys doing duels more than playing air rb, the f16 block 10 was the most broken plane since ever, it was the best 1v1 plane without any doubt, the block 15 and 20 where a little bit worse but still they could beat any 29 if they didnt force the 1 circle, and that was before the fm update that they got, i agree that for air rb the 29 was the best, r27ers are the best sarh missile even now, r60ms are ok at max, but trash compared to the aim9l imho, i dont see any major problems when it comes to air rb, even now with the smt against the f16c things in air rb are just totally different from 1v1s, my main problems are when i see the 29 (not the SMT) loosing to a 1c fight against the blk 10/15/20, the blk50 cant beat the 9.13 and 9.12 in 1 circle.
sorry for the bad english btw D:

Where is it overperforming? because any lower it will be on par with the J7E, JH-7A & Late Mig23s. Even the F4F (early) is pulling the same Gs as the SMT. It’s a pretty good phantom. I totally forgot how light handles compared to the others.

It looks like Mig23M found one disciple out of the million players who feel otherwise.

This stability argument is “F-16” talk and completely opposite to the Soviet philosophy. The F-16 is a highly stable aircraft due to the FBW. Deep stalls are prevalent in every single aircraft and is not modelled. So, every aircraft is overperforming.

Every aircraft can pull alpha well past the point of a stall in simulator. Miss me with this F-16 “OMG F-16 IS UFO!!!” I see you typing I do not want to hear it Mig.