MiG_23M & Ziggy1989 - History, Design, Performance & Dissection
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@MiG_23M I will simply stop even testing aircraft against it. Simply stop talking about it if you can just confirm the following:
What part of this do you agree with and disagree with.
You claim the Mig29 is perfect. cool.
So is the Fulcrum just an inferior aircraft to the West? Is that what we keep trying to deny?
I will merely stop even bothering with the Fulcrum thread, if you answer the question.
You said PERFECT. do not down play.
He is intentionally being vague, I said the F16C. What do you mean it is not the thread for discussion?
You did not say its inappropriate not to talk about it here like 10 days ago. lol
is not about if it is unfair or not, but do u understand that you and him are arguing for maybe more than 500 replys in this thread? thats the part that looks crazy.
even tho im not @MiG_23M i will try to answer about the f16c based on my opinions, they arent facts and cant be proven.
for me the f16c looks fine, in terms of how maneuverable it is, the mig29(9.13/9.12) can beat without much problem in 1c, can maneuver more at slower speeds while the f16c is just a beast at 2c and energy retention, that seems fine to me, IMHO all f16s should be like the f16c, ofc considering that other variants can be a little bit better since they are lighter, but thats how i imagine a fight between mig29 vs any f16, mig29 has the advantage at 1 circle and slow fights, f16 has the advantage at rate fights, 2 circle fights and also energy retention , so seems fine to me.
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They should honestly get their own thread, would definitely allow this one to breathe for a day.
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lets bring up my testing. It never referred to him once. He jammed up the whole conversation when people started discussing and agreeing the Mig29 is underperforming. Its a tactic he has continued to do since the old forum. Driving research away so he can control the narrative.
He also told on the GJ entertainment and made it even harder to get changes in the game all because he wants direct control of the narrative. He single handedly put GJ in the news cycle because he snitched on bug reports using manuals that were already exported around the world. Not even classified whatsoever. Just export controlled.
@MiG_23M I will simply stop even testing aircraft against it. I give you my word I will simply stop talking about it if you can just confirm the following:
What part of this do you agree with and disagree with.
You claim the Mig29 is perfect. cool.
So is the Fulcrum just an inferior aircraft to the West? Is that what we keep trying to deny?
I will merely stop even bothering with the Fulcrum thread wasting my time, if you answer the above
Thanks.
but that isnt because no one else is doing it? i mean, i dont do it cause i dont understand shit about it lol and most ppl are lazy to do it so it makes sense that at least someone is trying to make something since gaijin cant make the plane behave like it should?
if he can prove based on primary sources that some random bug report is wrong, i dont see how is this unfair
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The only reason GJ clamped down hard is because he went outside the community to entities to rat on us. So GJ has to do what they have to do. One man ruined a good thing.
His only excuse was “I had to burn it down, to save it” some weirdo excuse along those lines. In reality. I was right there and tried to talk him out of it and warn the user he was going to snitch on to retract. It was all just to win an argument.
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just saw this, lmfao
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Anyway I will go and test the M2k and other aircraft and leave the thread for you guys to discuss how you feel about the mig29. Peace. will upload F14 vs SMT others.
LMFAO there thats better. I might make one just to give you guys a chance to to discuss your own thoughts about the aircraft without being jumped on with “its perfect”
If someone makes it, I will jump over for real.
That’s possibly the wildest accusation I’ve seen you make lol
The dude wasn’t posting public documents you can find on google. He abused access to a government site to obtain a document that was restricted and export controlled. Further, he tried to lie about what the document said in the first place knowing your average person wouldn’t have access to it. I clearly made a mistake by putting him on blast the way that I did. Since then I’ve handled such reports quietly and I’ve helped the forum moderators find and remove such “leaks” before they become known.
They didn’t change their policy on anything. What I did didn’t make anything more difficult.
. Lol
That was your theory with no evidence. Stop accusing people with zero proof. He is still a member of this community.
Chill.
Additionally, what does that have to do with going outside the games control to tell on him?
I am sorry you did not see when there was a full announcement regarding acceptable documentation? LOL. No sense of accountability for one actions. Thats really low and short of you I must say.
Its off topic. Ciao!
Obviously I can’t prove it without actually leaking the document.
How is this relevant to the thread?
I’ve shown the plane aligns with all known data points from the manual as a counter to your gut feeling that it’s underperforming. You say I’m preventing good discussion.
Normally, you’d expect someone to post proof of something performing fine to be the end of that discussion. No, instead you attack that person’s character immediately and scoot onto the next farcical nonsense.
Case in point.
“I cannot tell you, because then I would have to kill you” Ok Agent 007. Thank you.
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XD lmao
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