Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-29 Fulcrum - History, Design, Performance & Dissection

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Time to spam the feedback. Fulcrums are gonna need r73s and the 29G should be moved along with the Eagles

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give me R-73s gaijin

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Lmao meanwhile F2 ADTW sits at 13.0 and Eagles gets the same br as premium hornets while bein better in almost every way, not to mention 29 still cant get its R73 cause muh op claim.

Gaijin is so funny but not in good way.

I would gladly spade the 12.7 soviet MiG-29 if it got them (yes I don’t have it spaded lol)

If they don’t want to give it R-73’s they might as well remove the ER and bring it down at 12.3 with 27R’s and R-60’s, and so it gets the same treatment as the F-18A.

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sorry ron but your topic lack options so i am gonna post mine. go support

It’s terrible the state gaijin left the fulcrum in, considering its Flight model is dead and its weaponry has been massacred

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Against the F-16C the MiG-29A in game is not hopeless (as it shouldn’t be) and their difference in rate when both are at correct speeds (at least unless there were changes in the last year to either of them) are negligible. The reason the F-16A slaps the MiG-29 in game (at least unless in the last year FM were changed) is because it is overperforming quite a bit at low speeds, but devs aren’t going to change it because of code limitations or something similar. Community Bug Reporting System

Anyway the MiG-29 we have in game is one of the more accurate 4th gen aircraft we have, there are many other aircraft that need much more changes.

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Excuses not rooted in reality.

Yet it cannot perform basic loops or maneuvers as seen visually or according to the manual without stalling pre-emptively or losing too much speed to complete the maneuvers as prescribed.

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it pretty much is that hopeless

true, but bleed rates when pulling are far more important in fights than sustained rates in general in this game when the envelopes are all extended far beyond 9g - this is also reflected in the EM charts of the f-16s having generally better and more favourable negative Ps v 29s even within those envelopes. why bother keeping your speed when you can just pull hard and barely lose any energy in exchange for angle constantly? this is why the gripen is still a very very strong flight model, even if it shouldn’t be

it’s overperforming at low speed, true, but also underperforming at peak rate - the mig-29 conversely is slightly underperforming at low speed and very overperforming at high speed. the matchup wouldn’t change either way if it got adjusted to be correct.
code limitations in general when it comes to these situations is gaijinspeak for them being lazy (while annoying, it’s to a degree understandable as there are plenty of other things they need to be working on), it’s pretty possible.

true!

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I play the MiG-29 often enough to have an ace crew in it, and when i read it couldnt do basic loops i checked and it really cant do them without dropping to sub 400KM/H. Extremely bleak stuff.

Behavior below 500 km/h is erratic, jerky, as if the inertia buildup is too rapid with little inputs. The real plane is floatier, bleeds speed less during maneuvers, and does not stall suddenly and at low AoA like the in-game plane. The nose is far more receptive to changes in direction in real life without losing speed. It is hard to put into words, but you can watch basic aerobatics from airshows and try to copy them even with minimum fuel and it just is not possible. The airplane cannot complete the same maneuvers as seen on real video.

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What’s the current state of MiG-29 reports?

With the F-15A and J moving to the same BR it’s current state without R-73 and horrible performance it makes no sense not to do something.

The R-27ER performance does not make up in any way the complete superiority of the eagle in everything from avionics to performance.

At the BR AIM-9M are much more opressive.

I don’t understand how come F-15A’s gettin br reduction while F2A ADTW still sits at 13.0.

First generation Eagle’s doesnt deserve br reduction just because player base dont know what they are doing…

to be fair the f-2a is much better than the f-15a.
but f-15a going down is still dumb as hell

In some cases yes in other cases no.

F15J for example is straight up better than F2A despite not having AESA radar.

Only because AAM-3s. Give F-15A AAM-3s and it will be pretty much on par in ARB, apart from gun dogfights.

I don’t think AAM-3 are the issue here as they are only marginally better

They aren’t marginally better tho. They bleed significantly less energy and this is extremely important for a missile like this. You can fire it from much fruther away, quite often beyond the average player “awareness bubble” which leads to increased effectiveness.

So they are marginally better like i said

They are also moving the F-15J down as well

(I think the whole thing is silly)