Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-29 Fulcrum - History, Design, Performance & Dissection

I would like to think it should handle really well min fuel since the fuel tank in the hump is fueled first annd drained last. allowing less in the wings. Therefore maintaining a better center of gravity.

It’s roll should be better for sure with less weight in the wings at lower fuel states.

I think GJ needs to rework the model and it still has potential.

Or maybe I’m just hoping in vain.

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baseline weight is higher. Better fuel placement doesn’t offset that. Also how do you know that the fuel in the humb is drained last?

2,000lbs is nothing in Min fuel. The Mig29 would not suffer to that degree.

Additionally. Its common sense that wings are always drained first.

The hump and center fuel tanks are always filled first (in the event you will not need a full load) and fuel is always drained out of wings first to maintain center of gravity.

Better fuel placement, and low fuel mean a world of difference.

This is really basic aviation stuff here. Like super basic.

Elementary.

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You can check tanks priority in datamine.

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I will look those up

no need to act like a smartass

That’s full on bs
the lower the fuel, the higher you will feel that extra ton.
That’s actually basic physics.

Only exception if all the fuel is in the hump could be roll rate, because it might have a lower Inertia moment (or whatever the term I in I \ddot{ θ}= \sum M is called in English), but overall handling will be much worse

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by contrast with higher fuel loads that extra ton will make for a lower % difference in total weight.

in this case not necessarily, since the SMT is just an upgraded MiG-29A, and the fuel tank in the hump was added later, which means that there might be some reasons that make it not the last one to be drained. Not saying that it isn’t the last one, just that I don’t know and is not necessarily the last one.

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Sorry its late, let’s start over.

I just said it should handle really well on min fuel. Not be better than other Mig29s.

Yeah, and I said that too, roll should definitely be better.

However, It has a worse roll rate than probably everything in game at any fuel state imo.

sorry, my fault, had understood it in the way “at low fuel the difference with other MiG-29s is the lowest”

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Still it’s my bad for being a jerk.

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We would need to see the difference in moment of inertia out of the 2 aircraft, in simpler terms how much the better mass placement in the SMT compensates the overall higher mass. That way we could directly use the roll rate in the MiG-29A manual and get a result for the SMT

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to do that we would first need to know from the datamine the actual order in which fuel tanks are emptied, then what is the mass of fuel that is left once the SMT has weight only in the fuel tank in the back spine

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Then we have to factor in the weight of the upgrades, right? The fuel states of both and where they are placed during those states, no?

I agree, I think this needs to be done first.

I was under the impression they were not modeled to emptied in any order etc. irrc. Lmk.

kinda. First of all this (the whole finding the new moment of inertia thing) would just be an approximation because an aircraft is not rigid (the fuel inside it especially is literally a liquid), and then I would just assume the extra mass of the SMT is evenly spread on the MiG-29A airframe (which is not true as it is most likely closer to the rotating axis (aka lower we would be overastimating the impact)). That way if the MiG-29SMT would seem to be underperforming then we would known for sure, as with this estimate the extra weight of the SMT as a greater impact than what it has in real life

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MiG 29UPG?

MiG-29K

That big canopy hurts my eyes. Which mig 29 is the most modern but with a regulsr canopy? Is it the SMT?

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MiG-35

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with “regular” canopy might be the most modern variant of the mig29m

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