Well, 64 is certainly better than 56, but something tells me that gaijin would consider this “unfair” compared to J-15T and we will be stuck with 32 countermeasures. At least MiG-35 won’t go past 14.0, being in a similar place as F-15E, having better missiles but mechanical radar… Unles Gaijin shoehorns Zhuk-AE into MiG-35 like they did with SM2
I’ve looked a lot into the sensors and antennas on MiG-29s and imma throw hands with Mikoyan, Gaijin and all authors of the books about Fulcrums.
First, Gordon states that little antenna with a number 28 is a part of SPO-15
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Same goes for this page from a magazine (here it goes with number 58)
Which is actually bullshit because MiG-29SMT 9.18, that is known to have SPO-15 doesn’t have those antennas
Same goes for 9.19 before they recieved L-150 antennas.
i’ve found this scheme that says that this antenna is part of the IFF suite, which is more sensible, because Russia switched from old Kremniy-2 IFF to new Izd 60 Parol`.
This also is confirmed by MiG-29SD (aka MiG-29N) which is known to have SPO-15 but it also lacks those antennas.
Next funny thing is the Antennas 89 and 91 in Gordon book. 89 is stated to be SO-69 transponder antenna and 91 is Pion-NM.
But then i found this photo of 9.13 tail and, while it’s very difficult to read, it states that the bottom one is actually SO-69 and top one is Pion
Gaijin, hovewer said “don’t care” and made it into a formation light
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They even have writing on the skin that says that this is an antenna lmao. (Tho this writing actually goes in line with Gordon book, naming top one SO-69 and the bottom one Pion-NM)
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Part dos
Now SPO-15, this one was quite interesting. If those little knobs are not part of it, then frontal antennas most likely are hidden in LERX compartments. But for the 2 rear antennas, they actually differ between 9.12 and 9.13
On the 9.12 they are apparently on the wing tips, right behind formation lights. (in this regard all 3 sources are saying the same, and most likely correct)
Gaijin obviously painted them as formation lights (this is becoming a pattern)
For the 9.13, because wing tips are now occupied by Gardenia ECM antennas, SPO-15 was moved to the inner side of both tails
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Left one is painted red for some reason
here again, you can even see the writing that most likely says “Антенна Л-006”
Gaijin, obviously, didn’t gave a shit at all
But when it comes to Mikoyan, i am trying to understand the genius behind the MiG-29M antennas
First of all, this time Gaijin did not paint the antenna on the right tail as a formation light… But MiG-29M doesn’t even have one to begin with.
Place that it occupied on Gen 1 Fulcrums is now taken by completely new sensor, and the only similar looking one i could find is on Flankers, on the left tail as well.
The antenna below is now also the same shape as Pion-NM or SO-69 (depending on who’s correct, Gordon or people that painted that MIG-29 9.13)
And, again, i found similar layout on a flanker, but now it’s Su-30SM
This antenna also retains 2 little knobs on both sides, similarly to 9.12 and 9.13 (but is absent on 9.18 and 9.19 so i believe that it is also part of Kremniy-2 IFF)
All in all details on In-game MiGs are an absolute mess, just like on Su-27s (their tail sensors are almost randomly picked and placed in-game)
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Very good research.
The effort and dedication of all of you is appreciated, but unfortunately nothing is going to change. I simply have zero faith and don’t expect anything anymore, after many years and a lot of time spent trying to change something
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It’s mostly surface level and only affects visuals as far as War Thunder is concerned, but thanks anyway. At least it allows to see some changes in avionics between airframes.
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Sadly Russia chose BVP-16-50s or whatever they’re called for their MiG-29Kr/KUBr and MiG-35s.
BVP-32-50 as mentioned below is almost exclusively MiG-29M/M2.
Also technically no proof either can fit UV-5-08
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All of the pods are appliqué, so they technically only require socket to plug in, and some sort of attachment system to be kept in place. But that is a big stretch, I agree, latches can be of different dimensions, sockets of different standards and so on. The most realistically possible combination is MiG-35 + BVP-32-50, because both airframes share maximum similarity and 35 is most likely developed from 29M
9.15 extreme overload 1G
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when you got drafted to the airforce right from a cahier post in Burger King
Man, I haven’t played 9-15 in 3 weeks… I feel kinda off, disappointed with the MiG
Stats:
Playing WT for fun ❌
Play a match just to be able to post on the forums ✅
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Meanwhile I casually hop on my Pantsir SM-SV, pop some soda, open my favorite playlist and enjoy the relaxing gameplay while listening music and cooling myself with ice cold drink whenever my cortisol level raise up.
Wt is indeed fun if you know where to look at it.
Close ups of the MiG-29UB.
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This one wouldn’t embed in the first message for some reason. :p
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If only the MiG had more lift and less drag …
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Best i can do is make it compress more… and remove some thrust as well
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Fun fact, the MiG-29 is the first plane with 100% channel loss!
That’s right, when you install the engines, they stop working completely!
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Can someone remind me, 741, when it was labeled as MiG-35 was a part of MMRCA competition, right? My eye just catched tail sensors, and it seems that this airframe has Tarang RWR installed.
Comparison of tails
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741 was built after MiG was eliminated from the MMRCA, the MiG-35 branding was just advertising for the MiG-35 platform at air shows etc.
As for the sensors Im not to sure tbh I have tried figuring it out myself but haven’t found a solid answer
It is most certainly not L-150
L-150 knobs placed right above rudder, and top mounts are used for a formation light on the left tail, and most likely a transponder antenna on the right tail
same antennas were present on the MiG-29K prototypes as well.
