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No, like, for example, the F-16s, the F-14s, F-18s, etc, etc, etc. A lot of people wanted this change, but done properly, not like this, which is poorly done, the way Gaijin wants, not how we asked for it.
First, they want you to spend time and money researching a copy paste MiG-29 that wasn’t even what we were asking for, right?
And then, once people have already spent the time and money unlocking it, they’ll just move it into a folder
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Yeah, i just rushed Mig29 before they added copy paste r60 one, the RP reduction were on time, now on the way for the SMT… But grinding 900k from 12.7 to 13.3 would not be fun
well as expected mig29M is beyond absolute dogwater, but hey at least its in game finally
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US mains will still say it’s overpowered and should be 14.0 at least
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Is it that bad really ?? From what I tested in the dev serv, it was pretty alright
Well, it’s not unusable, so to say. 8 R-77s with a good radar is still a potent tool, but… 60 countermeasures, massive compression at high speed without low speed performance to compensate for it, missing A2G ordnance… all of this makes it very underwhelming
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yeah man, its terrible lol - better than smt but barely, just the base WT mig FM cannot be compensated with any amount of extra engine power - the changes with 29M fm are only for stall speed stability, but that doesn’t matter much
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agility at transsonic and subsonic speed is also improved, but this not that important in WT. All in all, can be used, maybe even can be enjoyed, but at the face value - you have Su-27SM at the exact same BR which is better in pretty much every single way, outside of radar
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I see, I’ll try it out this evening, and give my feedback, I’ll gold it lets be honest (:
yeah, its “usable” in the way that SMT is “usable”, naturally r77’s can still hit an enemy. Similar to SMT it’s the worst thing at it’s br (in sim its arguable cause base flankers are 13.3 too, but unironically i think they are much better) - but honestly its in a worse spot than SMT cause its increase in br isnt represented in a relative increase in effectiveness, u have the same problems just against against way better enemies.
Actually currently u have worse problems cause u get less CM’s lmao
Airbrake and chute, probably.
Countermeasures? Lol, lmao even. Not as long as Fulcrum tax exist.
60 regular size countermeasures at 13.7 in a jet that is almost as hot as F-14… Gaijin cooked and gave us food poisoning
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Just remove every single missile outside of R-73 and put it at 13.0 or something, would unironically be in a better spot
Man, the problem is that it compresses at high speeds and you only have 60 flares. If you take away the you absolutely need for Fox 2s, you’re left with about 40–45 chaff at 13.7 with Fox 3 SPAM, and it uptiers you to 14.0–14.3 and sometimes at 14.7, with aircraft carrying like 10 Fox 3s each. You notch one or two and then you’re left exposed with no chaff. On top of that, the chaff is poor and not very effective. It’s clearly a disappointment as it is right now, but hey, at least they added the MiG-29M and I appreciate it.
I mean, it’s usable, but you suffer way too much, one of the worst 13.7s in the game, but I like the plane
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nah without r77’s with the 85 degree radar gimbal u would be absolutely fk’d. You cant rely on the fm to do any work with mig’s, so u would be in a bad way - gotta remember 13.0 is entirely full of tier 2 fm’s (T1’s being rafale & EF), and u still have lots of fox3 carriers (some even with aesa radars lmao). I think all the mig’s currently need to go down a br step, but just remove the ER from 12.3 9.12’s.
yeah at least it’s finally in game - and any changes it and the rest of mig29’s get can only make them better haha
trades 60 countermeasures for 32
was more meaning current mig’s in game
32 large caliber vs 60 regular
