You are being very confidentially incorrect. Solid rockets are solved technology and have been since the 70s. You can’t get more impulse from rocket than physics allows and you just going on with what paper takes is very silly. And for space reasons - nozzles in small missiles are very (and visibly) inadequate for getting that last 10-15% of vaccum (well 10km in game reality) performance
But we are going very off topic on something that you know very little about. Im arguing where i see number that is instantly wrong - this means it has to be egregiously wrong. So i open calc and run even basic numbers - sometimes we have very good sources on motor masses, sometimes we don’t and have to see if mass ratios for this type would make sense with claimed warhead sizes and adding similar overheads for sensors and electronics.
There are some issues in game due to engine limitations - Aster should be better, pantsir should be slightly worse - mostly due to drag calculations not being done for multi stage missiles. But overall across the range missiles in game are mostly fine
You’re not very good at this are you? I can say that both CONFIDENTIALLY and confidently…
I’ll leave it to the other posters to take you apart piece by piece.
If you don’t know what a ramjet is - I think things like electricity, running water might blow your mind! You should probably look up how Meteor and other long-range missiles work before trying to claim you know best…
Firstly, no, I didn’t search the forum for a few days to find the screenshot. It is national holidays in my country so I’m on vacation and aways from my Laptop.
Secondly, if you actually learned how to use the search function of the forum and know how to read, you would have known that the screenshot I posted is very much relevant to the discussion currently happening. Why? Because, the whole discussion between me and Gitgood started with me replied to that specific comment that he made in the screenshoot I posted.
So you are wrong, again, as usual
First you claimed that I was the one who first brought up the 11G value in this thread => easily proven wrong with 1 second of using the search function
Then you claimed that Gitgood didn’t brought up the 11G value => easily proven wrong again just by using either Ctrl+F or search function
Then you claimed that my screenshot is irrelevant to the discussion currently happening because “it was a few months ago” => easily proven wrong, you literally just have to click at the name tag between me and Gitgood to see where and how the discussion between me and him started. It literally started with that specific comment.
Tbh its very surprising the quoted range is so… small. Is it actually crossrange? Or is the overhead of all the things needed to work not actually that worth at MRAAM scale and it basically ends up barely better than rockets
The actual problems with meteor tho - hit speed might or might not be matched by missiles with 2 pulses but the reality is how maneuverable can meteor be - it has to keep its engine fed with air, the intakes can stall at AoA and are not symetrical - so it would be rolling missile (still keep in mind some AoA turn limits)
Drama inside
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I literally tell you’re strawmaning and you are inventing another strawman.
I literally only commented why comparing ranges is useless - probably bit aggresively
The guy talking with me understands im making fun of the exact kind of paper range posting that is the most useless in air to air missile discussions.
meanwhile you go in bring me breaking down things in other threads about missiles
assume i make calculations about meteor or whatever - your strawman
And now are asking for calculation about meteor which i never claim to have or done.
And to keep it actually real in thread instead of throwing insults:
i did that and all iam seeing is that you are the one that is not understanding the arguement @GitGood made
you said well actually the F-4 also withstood 12Gs once
and the counter argument was that it is not compareable to the Mig-25 bc unlike the F-4 the Mig-25 is only rated for 5Gs and not for 8 or 9Gs like the phantom
so the phantom is is recorded to exceed its rated limit by a factor of 1.71 ( 12/7)
but the Mig-25 by a factor of 2.2 (11/5)
there was also a case of a F-15 pulling 14Gs iirc which would be exceeding its rated G load of 9Gs by a factor of ~1.6 (14/9)
That’s really optimistic, at least in my opionion.
While it is true that a CM disclosure and leak talked about this, I feel that these plans might have slid forward a bit.
Could be wrong though, and only time can tell.
I wouldn’t mind seeing early 5th gen additions, but at the same time I think adding this stuff with no proper ECM or rushed RCS profiles is not gonna end well.
