Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-25 & MiG-31 Foxbat / Foxhound - History, Design, Performance & Dissection

Well, here is the issue with your argument:
The Mig-25 pulled 11.5 G once , it didn’t break into a millions pieces mid air. But the damage were intensive enough that it was written off.
F-4 even pulled 12.5G once, it required inspection, but there were no damage.

So no, their “feat” aren’t exactly equal.
Besides, like I said before, there are plenty of niche factors that make these kind of “maximum G ever pulled” quite useless as a basic to make comparison between 2 aircraft
1- How heavy were these fighters when they made these turn?
2- How long did these turn last?
3- can these feat be replicated again and again or is it a one in a million chance where pilot got lucky?
4- Was the pilot pulling as hard as the aircraft could physically withstand, or as hard as himself could personally tolerate? Even if F-4 can withstand 16G, could the pilot himself tolerate that?
5- Was the air density high enough/aircraft light enough so that the wing generate enough lift for >12G pull?.

i think the highest G load a fighter pilot withstood was the 14Gs from the F-15 i talked about
(not counting ejection seats)

May be, but ability to tolerate G force is also different from person to person. Hence the reason why I said there are ways too many niche factors that essentially make it impossible to make comparison from things that happened once

When you are just enjoying talking about feats of USSR aircrafts there will always be some random dude that will jump the convo with “achually US plane did it bettah”

Please just read the thread, there was never anything about meteor and its air breathing engine

Don’t be a strawman like ron

you are the one that talks about calculations yet has shown no calculations

you are the one that says the range numbers for the Meteor are wrong and shows no source

you are talking about solid rocket boosters in a disscussion about a a missile that is using a ramjet

and you are throwing logical falacies so you dont have to addmit that what you were saying was absolute senseless

if anything you are using red herings and ad hominem

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I think their only perception of missiles ends with the Congrieve rocket from looking at this thread

Watch them slapping missile it never used because balance or something
cough PL-5EII instead of PL-8 cough

70fxez

just a small note, the average speed would realistically be around mach 3.7, (1111m/s at 15-20km altitude) as the 100km in 90s claim is probably only possible in these higher altitudes, making the mach number a bit higher than sea level (mach 3.3)

It’s not 90 seconds it was “approximately 1.5 minutes” iirc. I bet the approximately is doing some heavy lifting

The Meteor does have a solid rocket booster for about 3-4 seconds to get it up to speed and then the ramjet takes over.

from available footage of meteor firings, this boost stage lasts somewhere in between 3-2 seconds, and an A3M source states the boost burn time is 2.3 seconds

A3M

a3m is the early test articles of the meteor and the raw part of it remained the same afaik

meteor firings

https://youtu.be/_cLsIXU7EjM?si=5aqQuKKotUwvyQ9w&t=33

look for the small change in smoke color that happens some 3-2 seconds after the missiles are fired

just some cool info i wanted to share