i can see this being reasonable for MiG-25P with smerch but for MiG-25PD with enlarged MiG-23ML radar?
i will try it with better altitude maybe it will give more energy to the missile
MiG-25PD dont have KDS-155 in game.
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Simple solution. Make it export, give it SPO-15 and KDS-155 instead of ASO-2. Or make it PDZ.
Its not an enlarged mig 23 radar. Its simply able to do MTI, thats it. The CW horn antennas are fixed, at the wingtips
Correction, its a 40° cone for the PD. I have to check to P if its a 20° for the P.
Sapphire-25 is literally based on Sapphire-23
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Its based on it but it has quite alot of differences that I wouldn’t go ahead and say, if it works like than on the mig 23 it would work like that on the mig 25. Unlike the mig29 and su27
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N001 and N019 were developed by completely different manufacturers tho
If you look at the mig-29b radar operations manual and the su-27sk manual radar section you will see that they have essentially the same performance out side of range.
Unlike saphire 23 and 25
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Performance doesn’t mean that they have same structure. N001 initially was designed with PESA dish in mind and recieved Cassergain as a last ditch effort to make it work. Meanwhile difference in performance between Saphire 23 and 25 is pretty much expected due to increased power, dish size and so on.
Detection for n001 is ±210 km per hour, and it drops tracking when below ±150 km/h.
That’s the same as n019 which drops tracking at ±150 kph for above 15 km.
Basically the same thing
Su-27
Mig-29
N001 is basically an enlarged n019
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Well doesn’t really matter since it didn’t come into fruition until the 2000s
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Do you have internal structure of both for comparison?
i am not talking about 2000s version, i am talking about the development of the N001 itself. It was designed with PESA dish, it was initiall tested with PESA dish and because it couldn’t reach performance demands PESA dish was replaced with Cassergain dish.
You can see it uses n019 parts. It is basically an enlarged n019 bro. That’s why it shares so many characteristics with it.
Saying otherwise imo is just dumb
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Well, you are correct to some extent. N001 and N019 share 70% of the internal components. But imo saying that “N001 is just a bigger N019” is wrong because 70% is not 100% or at least 90%
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Only things that really change with n001 is antenna size, back end processing is still essentially the same. It’s why n001 is basically n019 but with more range. For all intents and purposes with a small enough range it’s the same radar.
That’s not the case with saphire 23 and 25
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https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/CbxuBLyFBdpZ
i hope this one will be accepted, it’s weird that MiG-23 and MiG-25 still stuck with that atrocious scan pattern
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Истребитель-перехватчик МиГ-25ПДС
1 – основной ПВД-7; 2 – антенна антенно-фидерной системы "3 – радиопрозрачный обтекатель РЛС “Сапфир-25”; 4, 38, 47 и 49 – антенны системы госопознавания; 5 – козырек фонаря; 6 – рукоятка ручного открытия фонаря; 7 – подвижная часть фонаря, 8 – всенаправленная антенна радиокомпаса АРК-10; 9 – гаргрот; 10 – киль; 11 – радиопрозрачный обтекатель антенны КВ-радиостанцни; 12 – радиопрозрачная законцовка киля; 13 – хвостовой аэронавигационный огонь; 14 – разрядник статического электричества; 15 – руль направления; 16 – крышка контейнера тормозного парашюта; 17 – дренажная трубка топливной системы; 18 – регулируемое сопло ТРДФ Р15БД -300; 19 – подфюзеляжный аэродинамический гребень; 20 – пусковое устройство АПУ-84-46; 21 – обтекатель привода нижней губы воздухозаборника; 22 – штыревая антенна УКВ-радиостанции; 23 – эксплуатационные люки отсека радиооборудования; 24 – теплопеленгаторТП-26111; 25 – ракета “воздух-воздух” Р-40РД с радиолокационной ГСН; 26 – ракета “воздух-воздух” Р-40ТД с ПК-ГСН; 27 – сигнальная лампа; 28 – левая панель приборной доски; 29 – указатель крена и скольжения; 30 – верхняя панель приборной доски; 31 – табло аварийной сигнализации; 32 – индикатор радиолокационного прицела; 33 – информационное табло включения систем самолета; 34 – белая полоса; 35 – центральная панель приборной доски; 36 – лампа-кнопка; 37 – часы АЧС-1М: 39 – антенна радиосистемы ближней навигации РСБН-6С; 40 – радиопрозрачный обтекатель радиосистемы РСБН-6С; 41 – аварийный ПВД; 42 – датчик указателя угла атаки; 43, 44, 45, 46, 64 и 67 – створки шасси; 48 – радиопрозрачный обтекатель антенн маркерного радиоприемника МРП-56П и системы наведения “Бекас”; 50 – цельноповоротный стабилизатор; 51 – закрылок; 52 – элерон; 53 – сливная щель погранслоя воздухозаборника; 54 и 56 – радиопрозрачные окна антенн радиовысотомера; 55 – радиопрозрачная панель рамочной антенны АРК-10; 57 – нижняя подвижная губа воздухозаборника; 58 – посадочно-рулежная фара; 59 – нижний тормозной щиток; 60 – верхний тормозной щиток; 61 – гидроцилиндр передней опоры шасси; 62 и 71 – амортизационные стойки; 63 – тяга управления поворотом передних колес; 65 – демпфер шимми-гидропривода поворота передних колес; 66 – тяга створки шасси; 68 – контрольная лампа опоры шасси; 69 – тормозное колесо КТ-112/2А (700x200 мм); 70 – тормозное колесо КТ-111 /2А (1300x360 мм); 72 – гидроцилиндр основной опоры шасси; 73 – датчик юза; 74 – турбулизатор потока с датчиками температуры и давления; 75 – аэродинамическая перегородка; 76 – бортовой аэронавигационный огонь (красный); 77 – пусковое устройство АПУ-60-2М: 78 – ракета “воздух-воздух” Р-60 с ИК-ГСН.
This scheme of MiG-25PDS states that those are IFF antennas. You should have a source that would confirm that those are CW antennas, right? Can you share?
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unrelated: notice there’s no mention of RWR
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This also could imply that aircrafts modified by the mechanics didn’t had RWR because original MiG-25Ps didn’t had them as well. But for me personally - Gaijin can give it L-150 and AESA radar for all i care, as long as it will make it playable and not overpowered. I am not purist, and neither this game is a hardcore sim.