Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-23 'FLOGGER' - History, Design, Performance & Dissection

Problem is, the full source is like nowhere to be found, so unless we find that MiG-23ML/A/D manual with all the radar documentation and stuff like that, then good luck
The only way to get it is, by buying it off Meshok in St. Petersburg for like €300 lol

Lmao. Gaijin should buy that. For them is 300 euro nothing mainly when they can get more money for MiG-23ML.

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I have made a bug report in regards to the TP-23/TP-23M (IRST) of the MiG-23s not being able to provide ranging information. If anyone would be interested in helping this get noticed that would be nice ^^

https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/KbZ5I6kII4qA

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@Gunjob would you be able to take a look at that bug report?

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https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/AAv2KrC9Zvg4

This one would also be nice to get acknowledged

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I don’t know if that’s a bug, but all MiG-23s lost CCIP And CCRP capabilities. As far as I know, in terms of bombing the MiG-23 was as accurate as the MiG-27, a dedicated Striker. Does anyone know why was CCIP removed?

On the dev or live server?

Many of you probably know that the MiG-23MLD right now is missing its RWR painted sections. I have made a livery that fixes these issues and reverts the MiG-23MLD back to its former glory.

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Live

I have expanded my bug report with some more info on the IRST, lets hope they take a look at it soon! :)
These should make the IRST more usable, and a decent alternative to the radar

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But the enemy RWR will detect your emission in that case.

IRL yes but in game I do not think so.

The MiG-23s IRST modes ingame already function like they are in T-1/T-2/T-3 mode allowing you to switch between radar and IRST lock seemlessly. Either Gaijin removes that function (as it would only be possible with the radar giving range updates) or they just add IRST range information without giving RWR ping (as it is not implemented like that for any other IRST)

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Wait wdym IRST Range tracking is not implemented? Or do you just mean IRST of the same era/generation?

The MiG-23 IRST currently does not provide range information under a lock.

is it possible to get MLD in germany?

no

it is the final evolution of the mig-23, which didnt get exported, to germany

No, MLA is likely the best they will see on that front, likely by the time a MLD upgrade could be floated for WARPACT nations export variants of 29 and SU-27 were likely beginning to proliferate.

I don’t know if I should expand my current bug report, or make a new one but the range at which the IRSTs seem to detect targets is also very under performing. Manual states that a non after-burning MiG-23 in rear aspect at 10km height should get detected at 23 km~. I have tested this in-game and currently under perfect clear conditions the tracking range under those parameters is 11km~, severely under performing.

I have also gone through some of my documents in regards to MTI and I am very happy to say, that another manual I found very very clearly says that the BS modes can be used, in clear day and in look up. Once my TP-23 bug report gets looked at I will make another one to report this issue. I may also be able to argue that the MiG-23M/MF should receive this capability but that one is a little bit more difficult

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So the planes that would get the bs modes would be the ml, mla and mld then?

Correct