Anyone know if the MTI mode is realistic? It’s horrible and isn’t adjusted with the radar dish in game.
MLA is real regardless, includes the upgraded radar, gun sight, and other features.
Standard “ML” does not have the ASP-17ML gun sight, for example.
What does this mean?
I think this means the collapse of our hopes).
As far as I remember, MLA is an export version of ML.
Yeah but what means radio contrast clouds? Whats that thing?
As I was told, the MPI filter on this radar works by comparing the current signal with the previous one. If there is no interference from the ground or other radio contrast structures in the cell where the previous scan data is stored, filtering will not work. And since clouds in the game don’t interfere with radar operation, BS modes in the game can’t work either.
So theoretically if clouds would interfere with radar so it would work only if there are those clouds? In clear weather it would not work anyway because it would have nothing to compare it to?
With quite a lot of changes, such as 60 flate launcher on top of airplane
if there is no contrast, then it can simply give only the target as result? that kind of sounds like pulse doppler wont work lookign at sky as there is no way to compare the frequency shift of the target to background as there is no clutter. might be wrong on this tho but “needs ground clutter to work” sounds a bit wrong
Yes I know the MLA exists, it’s just not how it was called exactly.
No, the ML is different than the MLA in terms of avionics, like the radar, and gun sight most notably.
The MiG-23ML has the same gun sight as the MiG-23M, even tho I believe there was another gun sight like the ASP-23DTsM, but I can’t remember if it was for the ML, while the MLA got the ASP-17ML.
What changed was also the radar from the RP-23ML to the RP-23MLA or N003, so more radar modes filtering, ECM and more.
You know, if we ever get ECM, it would be a nice feature which could differentiate 23ML from 23MLA in game terms
The documentation explicitly states that BS modes also work in clear weather, but the detection range is slightly reduced.
Translate:
“The radar in BS mode remains operational even in simple weather conditions, but in this case the range is slightly reduced, especially when attacking targets flying higher relative to the fighter, and escort losses are possible.”
“BS2 and BS1 modes can be used both in simple weather conditions at altitudes below 2000 m, and when attacking targets from top to bottom (against the background of the ground).”
At a minimum, it would be possible to enable BS modes to search against the background of the earth from high altitudes. After all, it’s written in the documentation.
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I agree with that. According to radar logic, there is no difference in how much noise there will be on the previous scan frame, because the previous frame will be subtracted from the current frame without background noise, as well as without interference. The essence of this mode is that it subtracts the contents of the cell of the previous scan from the contents of the cell of the current scan and gets a differentiated result at the output. If there was a moving object in both cells, then as a result it will look like noise where it is now and negative noise where it was last time.
However, due to the lack of technical documentation, it is impossible to prove exactly how the filtration worked.
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R24 missile series were supported by mla radarvariants and beyond as per wiki. Considering ml can carry r24, it could be that the radar for it in game is MLA
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So we still have hope.
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What if I told you the MiG-23MF can carry the R-24 IRL?
The Libyans and the Syrians I believe were the ones who retrofitted them.
The ML in game has a different radar, it’s just that not much changed, and it is likely that the R-24 was just retrofitted to it, as we know that IRL the ML couldn’t carry both R-24 types.
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It can’t, if they were retrofit they would require the modernized radar and pylons… would fit the ML standard.
It is just an error the devs made, since “MLA” is not a real standard, only a name given to aircraft upgraded with the Sapfir 23MLA or MLA-II radar.
The other modifications include ASP-17ML gunsight, improved weapons pylons for mounting R-24 series, and in some cases countermeasures.