Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-23 'FLOGGER' - History, Design, Performance & Dissection

Oh cmon, we already have MiG-21 Bison, might as well get updated MiG-23

No need to share a wildly unpopular opinion as though you speak for the whole group. Nothing to be salty about here. You don’t want the MLD 98-2, then you don’t need to be here commenting.

ESPECIALLY if you’re just gonna throw insults left and right the entire time instead of addressing the argument.

With Fox-1’s? Sure.

@Giovanex05 actuslly convinced me that it could be pretty good at 12.7, but with R-77 at any higher Br it will be problematic in my book.

I mean yes but that’s because you are fighting planes also armed with SARH. Relevant flight performance metrics change a lot between SARH + No irrcm ir missiles to ARH + HOBS/irrccm aircraft.
Speed and sustained turn become less important in favour of climb and instantaneous turn

Simple - not include R-77. Available weapons is a balancing measure after all, Da Snail giventh and so Da Snail taketh

Looks who’s talking for whole Group while telling me to not do the same thing.

It seems you also love hypocrisy, not surprised tho.

Stating the facts arent insult, many people know how arrogant and egoist you are, you’re demanding things from Tech mods, you talking trash against other people and im the one who’s insulting you? Gimme a break.

From now on dont bother me again,ever.

Cheers.

Yea as i said with Fox-‘1s it could be really good.

But in the end it will up to Gaijin whether they will add it or not.

image Red mock ups are R-27ETs. If it can mount ETs I’m pretty sure it can use ERs.

Are you sure they couldn’t be fired? Because here they are attached to the thing
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Is there any loadout where it can carry more then 4 missiles with R27+R73 or R-77+R73 configuration?

Didn’t do much research on it (currently when I’ve time to dedicate to suggestion I’m scanning for info on MiG-29M 9-15 ;D ), but I think only option for 6 missiles is to carry 4 R-60s

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I see, it will be limited in terms of armaments then.

As I promised:

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Yes 4 missiles is kinda low, although is 4 very good ones at 12.7.

Gonna make count the shots then, thanks.

Are this the pages describing the passive interference/pulse doppler modes on the MiG-23 ML/mLA/MLD?

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I have not studied them in detail, but I think so.

Edit: probably not all but half of them definitely.

If there was a MiG-23-98 on BR 12.7 with that armament, I would definitely give it priority even over the current MiG-29.

No, actually SARH is more dangerous here because dropping lock before multipath allows the missile to travel straight and proxy on them.

But I was discussing using the MLD against top tiers.

If you’re going to be on the public forum you probably shouldn’t get used to saying this to people lol

These are all only mockups. It has never fired an R-77

No, unless you do 4x R-60M under fuselage.

Absolutely.

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Still is, and even with the F.3 late I can give the forth gens a good run for their money as well.

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@Gunjob When you are already here. Can I ask you one question? A few months ago, I made a suggestion for the missing chaffs (launched from UB-16/32 and B-8M rocket blocks) for almost all Soviet aircraft from tier V to end of TT (also for MiG-23 series), and that suggestion still hasn’t been published. I don’t know if I did something wrong during creation or it was forgotten. I don’t want it to turn out the same as when I made a suggestion two years ago for additional SLAT armor for T-62 series tanks.