Taking a glance at it, 10.7 is way too low. Good radar, amazing acceleration and top speed, good SARH missile, and R60M, it’s easily an 11.3 aircraft.
Comparing it to something like majority of F4 Phantom that are worse in nearly every way yet higher BR for some reason (worse fox1 missile, worse fox2 missile, worse acceleration and top speed). I know it’s dev server but 10.7, cmon now.
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yea, which is by your own doing? dont go past mach ~1.1 then. Also it’s easily avoidable by either just start climbing at 20-30 degrees or just stop after burning.
stale mate in a turn fight with F4
@hora11 I was gona reply more but you removed your comment
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Yeah, I saw 11.7. 11.0 will work though.
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yea it perform so closely to F4 (even better than F4) so I cant believe its at 10.7
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id assume its br isnt final anyway but its crazy that its a lower BR than f104G
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exactly
There are several accepted bug reports about it over performing in acceleration, turn rate, and enrgy retention. Interestingly it rips too low, and the real limit should be 1260 IAS, and not the 1210 it currently is.
It’s also missing a couple radar features.
Once those reports are implemented, I think 10.7/11.0 would be a fair BR. I assume the BR isn’t final too, but I’ve been wrong about that before.
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Yeah, 10.7 is too low. It shouldn’t see planes without afterburners. After all, it’s just the dev server they will bump the BR, But I think it’s worse than the F4, because the R-40 seems bad, it has no gun, and the turn rate is terrible.
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yea i thought so too, it maintained its speed in a turn fight with F4 and is slowly winning even though its such a heavy aircraft. Also the problem of engine melting isnt present, in fact, the engine temperature doesn’t overheat at all so I do expect them to change it and make engine heat up faster.
if the flight model nerf did go through I still think 10.7 is too low just because it can win every SARH fight and can just run away from everything. Maybe 11.0 instead of 11.3 but definitely not 10.7
Sure, move the F-4E to 12.0 then. [Not my opinion.]
The Mig-25 should never be the same BR as superior aircraft such as F-4EJ and F-4E.
The F-4E is faster, higher top speeds at lower and mid altitudes, equally good radar.
Mig-25 will easily lose SARH fights with the use of chaff.
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Here they are if u wanna see them and the explanation for them
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Mig25 sucks 10.7 fits it already.
Yeah, its BS. I have absolutely no idea what any 10.7s are going to do about it, let alone 9.7s.
At this point they might as well just admit they want to make soviet vehicles OP.
If its to remain at 10.7, needs to loose CMs so that you might have a chance to hit them with a missile, because at the moment, they are 100% immortal if they have a brain cell
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anything below 11.3 is criminal. It can just outrun every missile and just outrange everything. At 10.7 it can face 9.7 downtiers lmao
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The only reason i could even see it staying 10.7 is because its only gimmick can be defeated by a single chaff or flare pop. So while it likely will be unkillable at that br, unless your opponent just ignores their rwr completely they should be able to chaff or flare off anything it throws at you too. The R40ds seem decent otherwise tho. good even for a bvr missile. They probably dont want it facing pd radars is the only explanation i can come up with otherwise. it still will though with the viggen.
mig25 is not inferior to F4 Phantom, especially the F4E. F4 Phantom is only good at SARH missile fight and the mig25 beats it by a mile lol, not even counting all aspect r60m it has, yet sit at lower BR than F4E, hilarious
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lol F4E radar isnt “good” by any means and mig25 one is better
it wont ever lose if u dont fly straight like an idiot
important note: ofc these arguments are for the current dev server mig25 performance
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Unless you dont have flares or chaff
or dont have an RWR
I guess, but as i said, I still think its too low. I think 11.3 is probably more appropriate.
11.3 would be better, at least it would stand a chance of being countered by aircraft like the PD phantoms
The gameplay loop wont change for the MiG25 if it moves to 11.3. It just stops the inevitable full downtier to 9.7 where nothing can catch it or kill it, especially the subsonic flareless airframes. The fact it get access to 4 R60M and can see 9.7 whilst going mach 3! insane, get it too 11.3 at absolute minimum
This is as someone who wants to play the MiG25 too, But i dont want 9.7 to be even more unplayable. Those poor Hunter F.6s and Harrier GR.1s already facing the J7D
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