Guys hear me out.
We have the Mig 25PD now it is turn for the mig 31.
120-160 km range (75-100 miles)
To snipe someone from the start of the round.
accualy i think this thing should be at br 13.7-14.3
even tho this is a brick
PLEASE MODS I CANT USE THE OLD TOPICS BECAUSE YOU STOPPED THEM and people need to see thouse suggestions
You won’t get kills at those ranges but it would be a great addition
imo only the later version mig-31bm with r-37ms and r-77s should be added. or mig-31m with r-37s/r-33s and r-77s.
With basic mig-31b with only r-33, it’s complete doodoo as theyre SARH only and worse than the 27er and would still be essentially a worse su-27s/mig-29g at the same br.
The only thing that its good at is being fast as it has same top speed as mig-29 on the deck, and slightly higher top speed at altitude.
although I would imagine they’re gonna give it same top speed as the mig-25 lmaooooo
Even if they are bad sarh missiles it can be fine around 12.3/7, the radar is still pretty good and you can targets several planes st once, and the r40td are pretty decent aswell, honestly it seems much easier to balance than the mig 25pd.
you can fire sarh missiles at different targets and the missiles are on the same level as r-27er/r in terms of seekerhead and kinematically very similar to r-27er, with only slightly less acceleration and range.
Impossible for 4 r27er equivalents to be below 13.0
Like you said the missiles are inferior to the 27er, keep in mind that we have the aim 54 at 12.7, they are also likely better than the r33 so i see no issues about it being lower than 13.0.
It isnt like the er is not at a lower br either.
inferior by how much though lol? Theyre BARELY worse than the 27er. basically the same gng at least for range.
maneuverability it’s worse yes but with a much. MUCH longer sustainer
Isnt the pull much lower ? If we go by just kinematics the aim 54 still beats it.
more range than 27er but it’s still 19 gs of pull
19 g is much closer to the aim 54 tho so does the performance of the missiles itself since it has a long sustainer alike the phoenix, again i see no reason for it to not be lower than 13.0 especially when doesnt have irccm missiles either.
Btw are those 19g single or dual plane?
because the radar missiles are just that good? Its why mig-29 with only r60ms is still 12.7 with only 2 27ers…
4 r27er equivalents would put it to 13.0 easily. Better than 29g for average match.
and r40tds are still good, sure they’re not irccm but they got decent range.
loadouts would be 4 r33s with 2 r40tds or 4 r60ms
also the 19g of r33 is much more maneuverable in practice than phoenix because the r33s have much more fin aoa. just look at r40s that r already in the game that are much more maneuverable than the pheonixes
If the MiG-31 with R-33 gets put at 12.7 while the F-14B is still at 13.0 I’ll just end it ig. The only thing that would make it okay at below 12.7 is no multi track for its SARH missiles and no CMs
to be fair mig-31 has some abysmal flight performance. like it’s worse than the mig-25 lol
Do you have a value for it fin aoa, afterall the control surfaces are completely different from the r 40
Eh true. Although it should be faster and have R-73 though right?
We are talking about the b which is limiter to r60m and r40s
nah, but I would bet they’re gonna model it essentially the same as the r-40s in terms of pull. I don’t think there’s any hard info on r-33s fin aoa values unless there’s a r-33 manual on the internet.
Like yk how r-40 actually pulls harder than r-24 even though it has a lower g load value (though that’s more the case of r-24 underperforming in pull)
mig-31 (all) have the basically the same limitations as mig-25 (actually slightly worse in some cases lol), but considering that they gave mig-25 a 1.1 rip speed buff, I would assume they’re gonna do the same for mig-31 as well.
The only thing mig-31 really improves on vs the mig-25 is top speed on the deck (1500 vs 1200 kph)
they both got mach 2.83 limit
mig-25:
mig-31:
I mean there you enter on how will they model it, sure they could choose to give it much better aoa, but at the same time they can straight up give it the same aoa as the phoenix since it’s shares the same control layout, as it uses movable fins rather the flaps on the r40.
