MiG 29's and Su 27's flight models

The flight model is overperforming not under performing. I just tested this.

With a drop tank turns were limited to 3.5G or less. Currently you can pull 9G. Wings should be gone.

I was able to go go Mach 1.28/980+mph. This aircraft was only capable of 1.09 or 850mph at sea level.

This means it is over performing by more than 16%.

So the f14 shouldn’t be capable of carrying weapons while being supersonic on the deck? The f16 can pull 14g with a drop tank currently when the irl limit is 6g?

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So if going by flight model Alone is the mig29smt better or worse than the su27 and how is the su27sm in comparison?

smt is worse than both of the su27s

Russian players when they arent #1

Months of cope, and no bug reports because the FMs are correct. Eventually the community will have to come to terms with how the Soviets and now Russians fell behind and never caught up. The best Flankers will be Chinese, and the best REDFOR will be chinese, its the way it is.

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I have the mig29smt with only 2 r77 don’t get why people are trash Talking them all the time
Seams they are too used to the r27er / aim7m Meta

77s are alright, they are no 120s and gaijin iirc has a bit too much drag on them but they are serviceable, SMT airframe is just too fat while missing the thing that makes it fat its ecm suite. Currently for arh combat smt is the better aircraft just cause it has double the datalink channels the 27sm has (4 vs 2).

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I need support to improve Mig 29 please
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/NZ1Lg23Tkl96

Just a better rwr and I would be happy the detection angles are Still bad
I always have to level out to know if the Missile is still on me not to mention missiles from above sometimes go undetected

Why do I mostly see Mirage comparisons?
Afaik the Mirage is a Delta wing which means amazing turn rate
But abysmal Energy preservation while doing so

Even if it seams hard to implement
Looking at you Gripen

Because it is an example. to compare the maneuverability of both aircrafts even if this is a better mig 29 it should at least have a maneuverability a little worse or even equal to the mirage 2000. In the game the mirage 2000 and the mig 29 is totally inferior in the game.

I feel like the Mirage is to great
And doesn’t lose enough in a turn

I mean that the MiG 29 has nothing to do against the Mirage 2000 in the game, the model that they put on the MiG 29 is totally fantastical, with engines worse than those of a MiG 21.

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It does bother me that the mig29 and mig21 have almost the same one circle performance when that quite obviously shouldn’t be the case.

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Source?

I don’t get why nobody cares that the su24 is missing over 2000kgf of engine power per engine
But go completely nuts over the mig29/su27

The game is my source. Go do a one circle fight mig21 vs mig29 and you’ll see they perform about the same fm wise. People are upset because the mig29/su27 are just plain gimped meanwhile the f15 and f16 both overperform by miles compared to reality and even by war thunders f’d up standards.

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f16 i can get behind but f15 seams to miss engine power. i dont see how it over-performs by miles

It can pull 17 g and not rip its wings off for starters.

The True gload limit is classified. we’re should the g limit be in your opinion ?

probably closer to 12-14g.