MiG-29 9.13

Almost 3 years ago, Gaijin promised “When this soviet fighter sees more counterparts with equal strength, its arsenal will ‘surely’ be augmented with more advanced short range missiles.” Given all of the planes that have been added in the last 3 years and even the most recent BR changes involving F-16ADF’s receiving AIM-120 and going up to 13.3 and the introduction of 14.3, why has the MiG-29 9.13 not been given R-73 and moved up to 13.0? I understand maybe why other export 9.12s in other trees don’t have them but the SOVIET 9.13 deserves them now. If not when? It is not as if Germany needs to gatekeep this load out anymore. Maybe i am wrong? I understand previous balance decisions taken by Gaijin, and i understand the CM’s official position on this, however because Gaijin is now adjusting armament and BR of contemporary planes, why decide against giving specifically 9.13 the R73?

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→ the plans changed

→ the R-73 less MiG-29s now all stay without them to keep their BR

→ how tf js Germany gatekeeping anything? the 9.12A doesn’t get R-73 either

MiG-29G. Literally no difference from 9.12A (apart from slightly more powerful engines) but it gets R-27ER and R-73s (despite Germany never even gotten ERs to begin with)

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why did Germany get the MiG-29G?

  • there was no better MiG-29 to add like an SMT for example

  • there was no other equal plane to add at the time, infact there was no other aircraft to add that was going to be meta until the Eurofighter

  • gaijin had decided that it didn’t want the Early MiG-29s to get R-73

instead of the MiG-29G Russia got the MiG-29SMT one major update earlier

None of this matters, they can still add a MiG-29G equivalent to the ussr

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those are the official answers we got from Gaijin CMs

so they do matter because this is the official reason why

you may disagree, actually I too Disagree on this matter, but it won’t help us because Gaijin does not care for our opinion on this topic

Stona will likely close this thread in a day or two

Their reasoning is faulty and therefore it doesn’t matter. Nothing stops them or hinders their objective if they add a MiG-29G equivalent to the USSR.

Yes we are all aware that gaijin does this, but why do you say it like this is a good thing?

except that they dont want to because in their eyes the MiG-29SMT is the equivalent

I say it in a Neutral way because I find it unnecessary to make the 500th thread on this topic which has been very well explained by all CMs for Literally years

Well, US mains coped their way into F-16A getting AMRAAMs so i don’t see no reason for not talking about neglected MiG-29s

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  • SPO-15
  • 4 R-60M
  • awful FM
  • 2 minutes of fuel when afterburning
  • 60 countermeasures
  • ARH missile carriers one BR step above (you are going to be facing them every game)

This thing can easily go down to 12.3 and there would still be a planes I would rather play than it.

US main coping is what got the MiG-29 FM nerfed in the first place. And it was a double nerf of sorts since the other top tier airframe (F-16) got a massive buff in the same patch.

and they are wrong, and it should be fixed.

The point is to show extreme disapproval so they change the game.

unlike anyone else the US got 2! planes that major at the same BR

they still have 1 F-16, in the same BR range as MiG-29 9.12A/9.12B/9.13

your personal disproval will not change the behaviour of an entire company

that is why we speak as a collective and all voice our opinion…

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but like not only is this not the first time we did that

it’s not the only thread about this RIGHT NOW

What is your point

Yeah, i know. Absolute cinema. Every time some nation gets better US made plane than US there is a giant uproar (229 engines of F-15I and BOL pods on F-18MLU most recent cases) but when it’s USSR\Russia - who cares, it’s balance.

Right. I understand previous balance decisions taken by Gaijin, and i understand this talked about a lot, and it is because it’s a problem! As time goes on the official stance regarding 9.13 from Gaijin becomes more and more impractical with the introduction of more modern weaponry. I am bringing this up because Gaijin is moving BR’s and adding armament to planes that are relevant to 9.13. Now it seems, would be the perfect time for 9.13 to see R73. Would you be against it?

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