Mig-23M or Mig-21Bis

@Beeschurger gave you answer, it depends, and you’ll have to use manual sweep on the mig23 so its not gonna be as user friendly.

How about Long range Radar missle PVP?

Obviously answer would be 23M even if R23Rs are inferior to R24s, as Bis can only carry throwing spears.

But currently MiG-23 radar seems to be bugged, last time i played it like month ago, it cant accquire targets under ideal conditions.

Your best introduction to that stuff in the Russian tree is gonna be 12.7 yak141 or the 13.0 squadron su33 or 13.0 su27. Mig23 radar is pretty bad now that it has automatic MTI mode, theres bug reports trying to get it reverted to manual, the r23 is significantly worse than the r24 at least in my experience, and if you really want to try an r24 slinger the MLD in the tech tree is slightly better than the premium ML, in areas that really barely matter in RB and more of a sim thing other than the better RWR.

If you want the easiest intro to BVR the F4S at 12.0 is gonna be your best bet if you plan on grinding out USA, has everything you need, up to 6 decent missiles, PD radar etc.

Personally at 11.0 i found the mig23M fantastic fun.

The 12cms is difficult but you should manage them fine

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Ok then what do you i shall choose… I am a Su-17M4 player. I use that aircraft to dogfight and I am not sure wether the Mig-21Bis or the Mig-23M will be suitable for me. And I am trying to grind my first top tier jet in war thunder the Su-27 and the Mig-29.

what 12cms???

Go for the su27 first, its a much better plane even at 0.3 br higher than the mig29.

Yes and so which one i shall buy…? I am almost at 800k SL for the Mig-23 or the Mig-21 they both cost exactly the same price.

mig 21 bis is foldered, mig23m is something you have to research to move down the line, maybe that is something to take into consideration?

12 countermeasures on tbe mig23M

Mig23M leads to the better foldered MLD.as well as progresses the line.

The mig21 i skipped as.iv3 used the lazur extensively and its exactly the same…

The mig23M for 11.0 is a fantastic plane, itll teach you a lot , wing sweep, speef management. Countermeasure management.

Which is essential things to learn for higher BRs .energy management etc

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ok but i am a pure free to play guy need lot of help with SL currently using 12.0 Ground Arcade will this make grinding faster then relastic?

You wont make more per match technically grb makes more sl and rp.

However if you can overall perform better in Arcade than realistic it may make more sl faster

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Will the Victory Wager work on the Ground assault as One more battle lost, I will loose all my moneys

HMm i dont actually know as I do not tend to use hte wagers

I am unsure if it will count, but if you lose it you don’t lose the money, you just get the money you’ve earned so far

Ok I made my final decision. 70% of the people i ask prefer the Mig-23M now… I need tips for how to fly it

need to keybind wing sweep for a start, i usually stick to 70 percent

ok and more as i remeber correctly the missle are R-60m and only 12 countermeasure and how shall i use them probaly. do i even need to bring chaff?