I remember how he defended the Kh-38 and claimed it was equal to the Maverick, even though he had 0 battles on the Kh-38 carrier aircraft.
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Yeah every SPAA is 70sp, the buk is not special here despite being mid. But still that was not the point of the discussion. The point was that the MI28NM is popular enough to impact russian winrates and trying to blame the massive winrate increase on meta chasers instead of the MI28NM is nonsensical
Fair enough, was there any identification on why during the summer, russian winrates had fallen to 42%. I believe SLM was introduced at the time but started rising after it? It was still before the lmur introduction, looking thru thunderskill or statshark prior.
Russian winrates were stable and rising from march to may and dropped in june when the new SPAA got released. Then they stayed low up until september when the LMUR got added.
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Just shows how utterly reliant they are on OP CAS assets
Just checked as well. But werent lmurs released end of September? Around September 25th 2025? They dropped their lowest in june 2025 around 41% avg from statshark. August they had risen back to 43.5% and then jumped to 50% September. But the lmurs were only released at the end of the month. There is a small indication russian winrates were back on the rise, and 4-5 days at the end of the month can’t make much of a difference. Atleast i think so, but i do agree lmurs played a huge difference, i think there is also an underlining issue and its more the ldircm that can evade some of the strongest Sam systems in the game easily.
Because Mi-28NM/Z-10ME had gotten their ldircm prior to the lemur update, and i believe that gave a boost. To russian winrates
People are adapting, some nations are starting to play with certain nations more often, skill players are switching to other nations and etc. Many reasons.
I think you mixed up 2 months. The lowest was in July with 41% and June was 46 which would check out with the part that the new SPAA only got added shortly before the end of the month and July is the first full month with them. Same story in September when Ru winrate rose to 50.4 and then to 56.7 in October. Its a small swing in the update month and then a bigger swing once the first full month post update hits. 5 days is not a lot but the swings are smaller and you have to consider that the game gets a player boost post update compared to the average month. July to August is a smaller step that could probably be explained by adapting to the new SPAA like GNSS lobbing.
Oo, yes do apologize for that. I meant july being the lowest and an increase by august end. I think ldircm played a part too in the rising of them, because if it wasnt for them. September end where you only had lmur’s for 5 days kinda could be split into high player count in those 5 days but also 25 days as the rest of the month without lmurs kinda indicates ldircm helis were playing a part majorly.
If we could get a statshark dev or something who could explain us or maybe get numbers just between 1st September-25th September , it could outline the jump more
Other IR sams could definitely given helis a harder time if ldircm was never there if ldircm wasnt there.
Sure LDIRCM could have also played a role in the smaller september increase but looking at the similar situation with the smaller winrate decrease from may to june compared to june-july id say we just underestimate the amount of games played directly post update and their impact.
Wrong
Not a russian main.
Do more research before trying to shittalk people.
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The win rates dropped before the new SPAA was introduced.
Fixed wing CAS has never impacted win rates.
Morale of enemy teams have, but not fixed win CAS. It’s not mathematically possible.
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Be realistic, without common hard counters, top tier russian CAS is able to lift their winrates by about 10-15%, and this has been a historical trend since the Mig-27K was at it’s prime
Mig-27K had no impact on win rates and was countered by ADATS quite easily.
The only CAS that could out-range SPAA before March 2023 was the CAS firing AGM-65Ds.
Cause while GBUs technically had a range of 16km, you didn’t know due to lack of CCIP on GBU loadouts.
CAS has never had an impact on win rates. Evidence: USA and Britain. Both had OP CAS longer than USSR by over 2 years.
None of this is my take. All of this is Statshark’s data.
thats just plain and simply not true.
That one you have to explain, because last i looked CAS was more than able to destroy tanks which in turn drains SP which in turn reduces the enemies capacity to fight back.
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Probably the most incorrect take I’ve ever seen on the forums, good CAS can completely elevate a nation’s performance across an entire BR bracket, it is literally impossible to deny that
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Then where is USA’s 60% win rate from 2022 to present?
If CAS had a positive impact on win rate, USA would be the #1 win rate tech tree for over 3 years.
Also it’s not my take.
Edit:
Fixed wing CAS before the new SPAA is 900SP to spawn for maybe 6 frags.
Today, it’s maybe 1 - 3 frags due to how balanced the new SPAA makes CAS.
I can get 2 frags per spawn with my MBTs.
Helicopters are different. AH-64E, Mi-28NM, etc have 6 - unknown amount of frags.
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USA cas hasn’t been ‘dominant’ since the addition of the F-16C, it has always been overshadowed by russian and the occasional NATO country
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No idea i dont have reliable stats for that.
And even if we had some, CAS is not created equal we have unprecedented CAS strenght in the game rn and ofc the rest of the lineup has to work as well. CAS alone doesnt win games but CAS with a decent lineup does.
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