MI-28NM received DIRCM, protection against all missiles. DEV

[Armen_Lozone]

@141 allen

Which is impossible. It’s like saying ‘hey I can stare into a flashbang and not get blinded’.

Uhh yeah… wear sunglasses.
You can stare into the sun via a UV camera or a solar filter etc.
Nothing is impossible.

The LDIRCM is not claimed to be efffective against 5th generation missiles.
Only 3rd and below.

@141 allen

afterall it is down to chance whether anything is visible by the seeker

You seem to misunderstand…
IRIS-T is a type of missile that camnot be flared.
Even multispectral flares dont work against it.

Only FOV filling flares do. And those are still experimental and depend greatly on the angle of the incoming threat.

I dont know why you defend something that we have the sources to prove isnt as all powerful as gaijins implementation

[141_allen]

@Armen Lozone

The LDIRCM is not claimed to be efffective against 5th generation missiles.
Only 3rd and below.

It is less effective, but still works.

@Armen Lozone

You seem to misunderstand…
IRIS-T is a type of missile that camnot be flared.
Even multispectral flares dont work against it.

Not if all signatures are covered by flares. IIR relies off a signature like a heli blade or a wing. If they are covered, no track is possible.

[Armen_Lozone]

@141 allen

It is less effective, but still works.

Proof?
Source?
I can share mine in dms if u want.

@141 allen

Not if all signatures are covered by flares. IIR relies off a signature like a heli blade or a wing. If they are covered, no track is possible.

Yes and since covering the entire signature is so difficult for aircraft, it is a hard thing to do.

[DerGrumpi]

IF they are COMPLETELY covered,yes. But that’s the problem because doing is is very hard and probably down to pure chance.

But let’s see what adjustments they make and what actually makes it to the live server.
Bug reports have been created and partially accepted, now we can only sit back and wait to see what the developers do with them.

[ares94r]

Here’s what dev have to say

[Armen_Lozone]

Yeah basically theyre gonna let it remain broken until we complain loud enough for long enough.

[ares94r]

It’s not a a system it’s a FORCE FIELD MADE BY GAIJIN

[Armen_Lozone]

The AURA OF STALIN

[Zannafrancy12]

arent DIRCM and “laser ircm” straight up the same thing in this context?

[WereCat888]

I’m pretty sure it doesn’t, if it did it should have looked exactly like the LDIRCM on the Mi-28MN, the one we have in game is the one from my image (L370-5) but with a different kind of cover to better spread the dazzler i assume.

It doesn’t make sense for it to be LDIRCM when no LDIRCM looks like that, not on the Su-57 or on the Z-10ME and Mi-28MN.
Examples:

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Z-10ME

Su-57

Mi-28NM

Also the “LDIRCM” on the Mi-8 is probably wrong as well, because from pictures it uses the old L370-5 the Ka-52 uses, so it’s actually just normal DIRCM.

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[Commodus6504]

I have one question: How and with which weapon should a Tiger UHT shoot down the MI 28NM now?

[141_allen]

Guns.

[Armen_Lozone]

Kind of.
LDIRCM intend to decoy IR missiles how the shtora decoys SACLOS missiles without IRCCM.
By filling tne entire goniometer/seeker FOV with an over exposure of IR radiation.

However IIR seekers, especially the dynamic scan seeker types of the IRIS-T are immune to this since they scan the same image from different angles hundreds of times a second (or some high number).

[Armen_Lozone]

Which it doesnt have.
Are you seriously suggesting we take a 12.7mm gunpod against an Mi-28NM which can not only shoot you down with long range beam riding missiles, but also iglas as well as a turret with EEGS???

[141_allen]

yep.

[Grossaaaa]

@141 allen

Which is impossible. It’s like saying ‘hey I can stare into a flashbang and not get blinded’. Sure u can still partially track, but afterall it is down to chance whether anything is visible by the seeker than keeps track. And like IRCCM vs flares, it’s not 100%, in fact far from that.

It works because the IRIS-T only exposes the seeker for 1-2 microseconds to a target with Laser IRCM, thus the seeker doesn’t get damaged.

I am really sorry that real life is running a train through your fever dream of “russia stronk”, but the countless of shootdowns with Stingers, Iglas and whatnot kinda prove the opposite and that, if anything, the current IRCM on both the 52 and 28 is overperforming.

[141_allen]

@Grossaaaa

It works because the IRIS-T only exposes the seeker for 1-2 microseconds to a target with Laser IRCM, thus the seeker doesn’t get damaged.

Where it can’t see anything because it is covered with laser heat. Be it, it doesn’t get damaged, it will be covered, or at least certainly the area of the vehicle. I am sorry but your real life argument is really useless because most NATO nations are looking for DIRCM just that every one barring US can’t afford it.

Also Ka52/50/28s don’t have that. We are talking about Mi28NM specifically which is the only one that has this. These things came in really recently.

[Grossaaaa]

@141 allen

Where it can’t see anything because it is covered with laser heat. Be it, it doesn’t get damaged, it will be covered, or at least certainly the area of the vehicle. I am sorry but your real life argument is really useless because most NATO nations are looking for DIRCM just that every one barring US can’t afford it.

Laser IRCM works by destroying the seeker via overexposure, not by making the vehicle “invisible” behind the laser beam.

[Armen_Lozone]

Damn… u turn out to be trolling lol

[141_allen]

Well when the seeker looks, there is a massive laser in its face, which is hugely hot, what can the seeker see? Nothing.