In the game, yes
Should they be? Not at all.
They are 5th generation missiles, and the manufacturer of the system warrants effectiveness only up against 3rd gen missiles
Huh. Well, if the module doesn’t have direct LOS to the incoming threat, then the threat can not be neutralised.
Simple as
that’s a Kh-35, an anti ship missile
the LMUR (izd305) will probably be added only as a spyke at first and recieve it’s MITL guidance when other munitions do.
They still should. I think u should have a look at what DIRCM looks like on thermals, literally a massive white spot. This could potentially block off all the IIR signatures which are used for tracking, thus track is lost. Sometimes they can even break IIR seekers, certain parts may even be burnt.
Anything along side similar alt is within field of view, anything above is obviously a different story, likely it is against MANPADS mostly.
especially with a LDIRCM that has a high enough output power
I mean we don’t specifically know but very well could break something especially vs long range launch where it gets a few seconds on target.
Actually the kh-38 is being tested on the 52M and they have been seen carrying KH-25 variants as well as the anti ship missiles you mentioned
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No, they should not.
Especially when we have primary sources stating that IRIS-T is immune to auch countermeasures.
Yes
my bad that is indeed a 38 (38MA specifically) but that’s a 52K
Which is impossible. It’s like saying ‘hey I can stare into a flashbang and not get blinded’. Sure u can still partially track, but afterall it is down to chance whether anything is visible by the seeker than keeps track. And like IRCCM vs flares, it’s not 100%, in fact far from that.
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Uhh yeah… wear sunglasses.
You can stare into the sun via a UV camera or a solar filter etc.
Nothing is impossible.
The LDIRCM is not claimed to be efffective against 5th generation missiles.
Only 3rd and below.
You seem to misunderstand…
IRIS-T is a type of missile that camnot be flared.
Even multispectral flares dont work against it.
Only FOV filling flares do. And those are still experimental and depend greatly on the angle of the incoming threat.
I dont know why you defend something that we have the sources to prove isnt as all powerful as gaijins implementation
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It is less effective, but still works.
Not if all signatures are covered by flares. IIR relies off a signature like a heli blade or a wing. If they are covered, no track is possible.
Proof?
Source?
I can share mine in dms if u want.
Yes and since covering the entire signature is so difficult for aircraft, it is a hard thing to do.
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IF they are COMPLETELY covered,yes. But that’s the problem because doing is is very hard and probably down to pure chance.
But let’s see what adjustments they make and what actually makes it to the live server.
Bug reports have been created and partially accepted, now we can only sit back and wait to see what the developers do with them.
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Here’s what dev have to say
Yeah basically theyre gonna let it remain broken until we complain loud enough for long enough.
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It’s not a a system it’s a FORCE FIELD MADE BY GAIJIN
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arent DIRCM and “laser ircm” straight up the same thing in this context?
I’m pretty sure it doesn’t, if it did it should have looked exactly like the LDIRCM on the Mi-28MN, the one we have in game is the one from my image (L370-5) but with a different kind of cover to better spread the dazzler i assume.


It doesn’t make sense for it to be LDIRCM when no LDIRCM looks like that, not on the Su-57 or on the Z-10ME and Mi-28MN.
Examples:
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Z-10ME
Su-57

Mi-28NM
Also the “LDIRCM” on the Mi-8 is probably wrong as well, because from pictures it uses the old L370-5 the Ka-52 uses, so it’s actually just normal DIRCM.
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I have one question: How and with which weapon should a Tiger UHT shoot down the MI 28NM now?
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