Mi 28-nm

Please nerf the ldircm, almost nothing can kill this monster, and 1 can dominate the entire lobby. give nato good AA for the love of god, just add the patriot

patriot would actually suck in this meta (think of buk, but possibly worse)

LDIRCM absolutely needs nerfs
BUT

the Mi-28NM’s is the worst LDIRCM out of all LDIRCM helis currently, since it actually has blindspots. Just FYI

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cant be bad to have more AA, nato AA is just bad compared to the likes of the smv

There aren’t any direct western counterparts to the Pantsir I am afraid. Sadly kind of just how it is. ARH missiles like the Patriot won’t help bc they will just get multipathed/chaffed.

But yeah, LDIRCM in general should get a substantial nerf

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SM-SV absolutely should get a nerf though
give it Pantsir S1 missile “fire rate” and we’d be so much closer to having a balanced top tier setup

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Will only mitigate the issue of the SM-SV by a bit. It is one of the few modern SAM systems which almost seems to have been created specifically for war thunder.

honestly, it would be a major nerf imo
since now you have the ability to overwhelm it
rn there’s 0 cooldown between launches

It would raise the skill floor but pantsirs always have 4 guns to fall back onto or cover since it is so small

true, but I find the gun to be much less reliable than the missiles for interceptions.

Either way it will be a really healthy nerf

Brings NATO CAS more freedom which spreads the balance.

Also makes the Mi-28NM perform less well compared to NATO since the SM is more vulnerable

All they need to do is:

  • Make LDIRCM only affect a limited number of missiles at once and make missile immune to LDIRCM such as IRIS-T, actually immune to it
  • Remove MP for ARH SAMs
  • Add a radar signature heli rotor blades
  • Fix a huge number of outstanding bug reports (Like CAMM-ER having half its IRL range and DL being disabled for both the CAMM and CAMM-ER)

and NATO SAMs would be just as good as soviet ones like the SM-SV. Especially given that I dont there is any SACLOS SAMs available to any other nation, because it isnt used by NATO, which is fine IRL, because the systems are actually good IRL

Turns out the Kremlin has been designing vehicles IRL just for War Thunder which is why they are bad IRL but OP in-game :D

I wouldn’t remove it, but lowering the mp height absolutely is something I agree with

I think they should just set it to IRL levels for the SAMs, which for some like CAMM is 0m and Aster-30 is like 5m

Use SAMs as a test for that before rolling it out for A2A missiles too

Especially as SAMs cant fire from above like a plane can

So… removing it?

Yup, its ahistorical, so why is it in a realistic game

Spoiler: as long as multipathing exists patriot will be doodoo.

bc there is quite alot of players that are alergic to learning how to notch

if you remove multipathing they might just start shooting down your missiles with theirs

anything but learning how to notch