Mi-24D (USSR Premium) BR 8.7 - This Feels Like a Scam

you faster than me lol


Here I agree with you. I can say 100% that statistics are not always indicative, because everything is averaged and individual skill matters. One player can perform well, another can perform badly.

Lately, I spend most of my time playing helicopters, with only a little bit of fixed-wing aviation. Based on that experience, I can honestly say this is one of the worst helicopters I have ever played.

My main gameplay right now is to quickly earn points just to respawn in a helicopter. If this helicopter were good, I would never have started this post in the first place.

I also own the premium RAH-66, and I am generally satisfied with it — it’s a good helicopter. But that’s a completely different topic for discussion.

Everything written below is something I already know, and it does not apply to me at all. So all of that is just blah-blah-blah and completely off topic.

The point is not that the Mi‑24D’s ATGMs are uniquely bad, it is that its overall toolset at 8.7 got downgraded after sale. The helicopter was advertised and played for a long time with CCIP/ballistic assist for rockets and gunpods; that functionality was removed while keeping the same BR and role, which significantly changed how it performs in the same matchmaker full of Roland or Chaparral and fast jets.​

Radar SPAA and proximity‑fused shells are part of 8.7, but CCIP let you at least take more precise standoff shots instead of exposing a huge Hind frame to line‑of‑sight for both the ATGM and the follow‑up rockets. Without that, the risk profile went up while the rating stayed the same, which is why asking for either the ballistic computer back or a lower BR.​​

And sure, Gaijin legally can change premiums at any time, but from a player‑trust and game‑design standpoint, heavy post‑purchase nerfs with no BR or role adjustment feel bad and probably make people less willing to buy future premiums. A small BR drop or restoring some of the removed functionality would go a long way toward keeping this vehicle in line with similar 8.7 machines and with what buyers originally paid for.​

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So after all of this, what do you think the chances are that I will ever buy another premium or bundle from them in the future - helicopter, aircraft, or tank?

Zero?

Or would it have to be something exceptionally good for me to even consider buying again?

Honestly, I strongly doubt that I will ever purchase anything else from them. I don’t know how things are for long-time veterans, but from my side, there will definitely be no big purchases anytime soon.

Your general stats say otherwise. while it’s in the bottom half, it is in the top part of the bottom half. You do have several helicopters you have played a lot more in but are performing worse in.

That’s fair, and it’s ultimately a personal decision.

The broader point being discussed here isn’t whether any individual will or won’t buy premiums again, but whether removing a key gameplay feature from a premium vehicle without adjusting its BR or role is good balance practice.

That’s a separate issue from individual purchasing choices, and it’s the part that affects everyone who plays or considers buying premium vehicles in the future.

@AntoSA This is the moment where the discussion is being officially steered away from balance and into player stats, which is a dead end if you take the bait. The correct move is to de-personalize and re-anchor on design, without arguing with a Game Master about numbers.

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Well, what can I say — discussing statistics with a player whose stats are far worse, who has several levels less helicopter experience, and who doesn’t even play the helicopter being discussed in this post makes no sense.

After checking his statistics, I was honestly surprised. He has almost no helicopters researched at all — he’s clearly a pure ground-only player. In that case, there’s really nothing more for me to say. Everything is obvious.

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I’m also a bit confused, when did you purchase the vehicle? because from what i can see the CCRP was already removed by the time you first started playing the vehicle (though i’m not sure about this and i might be looking at things wrong),

You’re still free to complain about the CCRP removal of course. But this argument:

Doesn’t in that case make much sense.

Fair point.

Also fair point.

I’m just trying to point out the inconsistencies in your statements. If you say that it’s the worst you have played when it statistically doesn’t seem to be the case, feels odd. Saying it feels over tiered, when other helicopters at the same BR performs roughly equal, feels odd.

I don’t need to have much experience in an area or with a specific thing to be able to see the inconsistencies in statements.

That does not however in any way invalidate your complaints nor your experience in the vehicle.
I just personally feel like the complaints might come from a different base than what it on the surface looks like.

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It always had a ballistic computer . As far as I remember, it was always there .

Then I bought it — and only after that I found out that the ballistic computer had been removed. I was honestly shocked.

But at that point, I had already paid. I bought it without realizing that it no longer had a ballistic computer. I thought, okay, fine, let’s try it without one.

It turned out to be much worse than I expected .

So yes, this helicopter was nerfed hard. And in return, nothing was given. No ballistic no alternative, no compensation.

I honestly can’t even imagine how people feel who bought it before me, when it was still in its pre-nerf state, and then watched it get downgraded like this.

Seems it was removed in march 2025 (10 months ago).

The A version also had it’s CCIP removed simultaneously.

So this is more of a case of not researching your purchase beforehand then. I still understand that disappointment though.

You are free to argue for some change in BR and if you have sources you can argue for other additions to make up for the CCIP removal. But given the average performance of the helicopters of that BR the vehicle on it’s own seems reasonably placed. What could be argued however is that a couple of them could be lowered in BR as a whole due to how many of them at that BR are performing. Singling out just one of them doesn’t really make sense to me personally.

There is 1 solution, 1.0 step of BR of all SPAA, or 8.0 BR will be fine for sure, others heli also need to down…

I don’t think SPAA will be moved like that as they face other things and not just helicopters.

You can argue for the Helicopters BR change during the next round of BR changes. They usually do 3 or 4 feedback rounds per year.

Heli:

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Everyone of these Helis, even including missile kills, have closer stats compared to:
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This is not true at all, having used the MI-24D alot, you can stay around 3.5-4KM away from enemy SPAA and use CM series and they cant lock you using radar, you also dont get hit by missiles alot of the time.

It shouldn’t be the same BR as the MI-24A as you get 128CMs, IRCM, HIRSS.

I have a 1.5 KDR in it over 440 games, normally only spawning it if we are losing.

Meanwhile, my KDR for the MI-24A is only around 1.1 over 550 games.

Sadly they get ignored, I made 12 or so feedback posts just about helis, problem is alot of higher tier helis dont have enough games played to get balanced properly, and the few that do grind them are generally the more sweaty players (like myself) which artificially make them seem better then they are, while they are mostly not great so the normal player still does not grind for them.

I just checked your Italian Mi-24D counterpart. You think 1.19 K/D is a good result? Do you really think it’s worth trading 550 spawn points for one kill?

That’s barely profitable at best. In my view, you should be getting at least 2 kills per helicopter spawn. If you don’t get 2 kills, then you’ve simply wasted 500–550 spawn points on the helicopter. You would have been better off spawning a tank and continuing the fight — that would be more effective.

If you were getting 4 kills per spawn, then yes, the efficiency would actually make sense.

So by your own stats — 440 battles — you’ve already proven your inefficiency on this helicopter. You’ve proven to yourself that you don’t play it well.

And win rate doesn’t matter here — that depends on the team, not on you, so it’s not an argument.

Where are u getting 1.19KD from ?

541 kills/388 deaths is 1.4 and about 20 of those deaths were me getting TK by my mates.

Also see my message above, im stating that most helis are unfairly placed, alot of heils are overtired and should be put down, and I have made suggestions to that already multiple times.

However, the Mi24A should not be the same BR as the Mi24D due to the significant upgrades. Also as i stated above to the other guy, im generally not spawning the heli when my team is doing well, either i need to rocket rush late game or im facing significant SPAA. If I wanted I could spawn it with the missiles closer to mid game and get a higher KD.

SPO and flares useless for radar SPAA, also I paid for that gold! is not free

Doesn’t it have access to chaff as well?