Mi-24D (USSR Premium) BR 8.7 - This Feels Like a Scam

[VOYAGER_EXPLORER]

I agree with this completely, and the key issue isn’t “difficulty” or player skill. It’s removed functionality with no compensation.

The Mi-24D was already a high-risk helicopter at 8.7. Its survivability, size, and lack of guided weapons meant it relied heavily on first-pass effectiveness. Removing the ballistic computer for S-5 rockets and gun pods fundamentally breaks that balance. Rockets without ballistic assistance at this BR are not just harder to use, they’re mechanically mismatched against radar SPAA, stabilized MBTs, and jets.

What makes this unacceptable is that this is a premium vehicle. It was sold with specific capabilities, and those capabilities were later removed without a BR reduction, survivability buffs, economy changes, or alternative tools. That’s not normal balance adjustment. That’s a downgrade after purchase.

At 8.7, this turns every engagement into extended exposure against radar guided threats, which is simply not viable.

Restoring the ballistic computer, lowering the BR, or rebalancing the helicopter in a meaningful way are all reasonable solutions. Leaving it as is just means the vehicle no longer fulfills its intended role or its premium value.

Given how hard the Mi‑24D struggles after losing its ballistic computer, a BR of 8.3 seems far more appropriate, with 8.0 as an option if no targeting aids or other buffs are returned. That would keep it useful without throwing it into constant 9.0 games where it has almost no chance to use its rockets and gunpods effectively.

[MertisWee]

@AntoSA

buying

You didn’t bought it, you obtained license to play/use that vehicle

[xDiamond96x-live]

And thats no metters to say ‘hey is a bad HELI’

[AntoSA]

@Normandy_Corsair

Mi4 is 8.0

Mi-4 is an entry and free and is just a joke :D But then you pay 50$ or 30$ (then it’s a discount) for Mi-24D but it feels like same, believe me!

[YaSen]

Premium doesn’t always mean it would be better than the regular vehicle, fortunately. There are also identical regular Hungarian Mi-24D and a very similar Soviet Mi-24A btw. While in general I agree that a lack of ballistic computer on a helicopter sucks, but Mi-24D was at 8.7 not only because of that, it’s still a very fast platform with good enough ATGMs and turret to defense itself, it even has flares.
Comparing Hungarian Mi-24D and Italian A.109EOA-2, they are both equal currently as ATGM platforms.
At 8.3 other platforms are placed which are way worse than Mi-24s: Mi-8, IAR-316, SA.313/316.

[AntoSA]

SPO and flares are useless for radar SPAA. Then they start to fire, you have fiu seconds to run out or u dead. I try many times 2-3 km is in range, then they kill you 80% 4-km 30%-50% but there’s no sense because you are useless with low speed of ATGM and range.

[AntoSA]

@YaSen

Premium doesn’t always mean it would be better than the regular vehicle

LOL do you have any Premium???

what you will say about T-80UD or 2s38, BMPT-72

[Necronomica]

He did say “Does not always mean” . That doesn’t exclude the possibility of some of them being better.

Premiums aren’t generally bought because of their capabilities, what you purchase is access to the vehicle and the RP/SL bonuses you get from playing it. That vehicle can change in the future but you still have access to it and still get the bonuses it provides.

[AntoSA]

Oh please, let’s not start with commercial or legal excuses if everything is supposedly “fine”.

If it’s really that bad, then why is this vehicle even sold as a premium?

The Mi-24D premium has no real value. There is no meaningful difference between the Italian version and the Soviet one. Gameplay-wise, they feel the same. I honestly see no reason why this helicopter should be sold for Gold at all.

And on top of that, it was removed from sale, which supposedly makes it rare.

If it’s rare, then at least let skilled pilots actually dominate with it. Right now, you can’t dominate, you can’t enjoy it, and you already paid.

From a player’s perspective, this looks like the worst possible outcome:

you can’t perform, you already paid, and players are unhappy.

So what is the point of this premium at all? Why do this to your own players?

[VOYAGER_EXPLORER]

A few things to clarify here, because some of this mixes theory with how the Mi-24D actually plays in practice.

First, Nobody is arguing that “premium = better than tech tree” in this topic. The issue is post-purchase loss of functionality. The Mi-24D (USSR) previously had ballistic assistance for rockets and gun pods. That was removed without BR, survivability, or role compensation.

Whether similar tech-tree variants exist doesn’t change the fact that a paid vehicle was mechanically downgraded.

Second, calling the Mi-24D an “ATGM platform” at 8.7 is where the comparison “breaks down”.
Yes, it technically has ATGMs, but they are short-range, manually guided, and force sustained line-of-sight exposure. At 8.7, that means radar SPAA, proximity shells, and jets with enough speed to delete you before a second missile is guided in. Speed doesn’t help much when the engagement envelope itself is hostile.

The turret and flares don’t really solve this either

The turret is defensive only against very specific threats and requires close proximity.
Flares help against IR missiles, not radar SPAA or gun-based AA, which is the dominant threat at this BR.

As for comparisons to 8.3 helicopters like Mi-8, IAR-316, or SA.313/316, those vehicles being worse does not justify keeping another helicopter overtiered. Balance shouldn’t be anchored to the weakest examples in the bracket, especially when the Mi-24D is forced into the same close-range exposure profile without the aiming tools it originally had.

The core problem remains unchanged
At 8.7, the Mi-24D now has high exposure, low first-pass lethality, and no stand-off capability, Which is exactly what the ballistic computer previously compensated for. Removing it broke that equation.

This isn’t about wanting the helicopter to be overpowered. It’s about restoring internal consistency. Either by giving back the tools it was balanced around, or by adjusting its BR or role accordingly.

[SFmerc]

2s38 no regular vehicle to compare.
Terminator, tech tree version is actually better compared to BMPT-72
Ud is least better compared to T72 on same BR, but also, there is turms on 10.3 also, what benefits also nicely compared to tech tree variant.

[VOYAGER_EXPLORER]

Please stay cool @AntoSA

[AntoSA]

Are u sure :D Compare better, my friend?

Compare them more carefully and in more detail, and you will see that there are many significant advantages that help and clearly distinguish it in a much more positive, premium-oriented way.

[SFmerc]

5 vs 3 crew.
Better era on tech tree.
Timed HE shell on tech tree.
So please tell me why that premium would be better. If premium bonuses are not included.

[VOYAGER_EXPLORER]

That’s a different discussion. This thread is about a vehicle losing a balancing feature Post-Purchase with no BR or role adjustment, not about how other premiums compare to tech tree vehicles.

[YaSen]

@VOYAGER_EXPLORER

Yes, it technically has ATGMs, but they are short-range, manually guided, and force sustained line-of-sight exposure. At 8.7, that means radar SPAA, proximity shells, and jets with enough speed to delete you before a second missile is guided in. Speed doesn’t help much when the engagement envelope itself is hostile.

They aren’t any different from other ATGMs on that tier as “manually guided” have actually the same semiautomatic guidance in the game as TOW for example. What radar SPAA do you mean? Roland or Chaparral, if you have issues with these, it will be very hard for you to play any other higher br helicopters.

@VOYAGER_EXPLORER

First, Nobody is arguing that “premium = better than tech tree” in this topic. The issue is post-purchase loss of functionality. The Mi-24D (USSR) previously had ballistic assistance for rockets and gun pods. That was removed without BR, survivability, or role compensation.

Nobody forces you to buy the thing and nobody guarantees you that the vehicle will stay the same or you will get any compensation for changes.

[Necronomica]

@AntoSA

If it’s really that bad, then why is this vehicle even sold as a premium?

It doesn’t seem to be that bad, it seems to be performing on-par and/or middle of the pack with other helicopters of the same BR:

I haven’t played it myself so i can’t really speak on it’s performance more than the statistics.

@AntoSA

The Mi-24D premium has no real value. There is no meaningful difference between the Italian version and the Soviet one. Gameplay-wise, they feel the same. I honestly see no reason why this helicopter should be sold for Gold at all.

Because you are not buying capabilities. You are buying the instant access and the faster RP/SL gain.
Premiums are ment to speed up the other vehicle unlocks, not be better vehicles than their tech tree equivalents. This isn’t pay to win.

@AntoSA

And on top of that, it was removed from sale, which supposedly makes it rare.

If it’s rare, then at least let skilled pilots actually dominate with it. Right now, you can’t dominate, you can’t enjoy it, and you already paid.

Making it rare makes it a collectors item, not a better vehicle. Premiums aren’t ment to be better vehicles. That is not the point of them.

@AntoSA

you can’t perform, you already paid, and players are unhappy.

You can’t buy performance.

@AntoSA

So what is the point of this premium at all? Why do this to your own players?

Speed up the vehicle unlocks in the main tree.

[SFmerc]

Just look on what and who i replied, and then say this again

[VOYAGER_EXPLORER]

you faster than me lol

[AntoSA]

@Necronomica

I haven’t played it myself so i can’t really speak on it’s performance more than the statistics.

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Here I agree with you. I can say 100% that statistics are not always indicative, because everything is averaged and individual skill matters. One player can perform well, another can perform badly.

Lately, I spend most of my time playing helicopters, with only a little bit of fixed-wing aviation. Based on that experience, I can honestly say this is one of the worst helicopters I have ever played.

My main gameplay right now is to quickly earn points just to respawn in a helicopter. If this helicopter were good, I would never have started this post in the first place.

I also own the premium RAH-66, and I am generally satisfied with it — it’s a good helicopter. But that’s a completely different topic for discussion.

@Necronomica

Because you are not buying capabilities. You are buying the instant access and the faster RP/SL gain.
Premiums are ment to speed up the other vehicle unlocks, not be better vehicles than their tech tree equivalents. This isn’t pay to win.

Everything written below is something I already know, and it does not apply to me at all. So all of that is just blah-blah-blah and completely off topic.