Meet the Auction!

[Kanelikainalo-psn]

@todace

We are not willing to sell vehicles on Auction and via trophies/marketplace.

You weren’t willing to sell toptier premiums either…

@todace

First of all - we do not like the idea of making our hard work available only for a few.

Like event vehicles? Anyone with a life outside of the game or who doesn’t have the budget to pay 50 bucks per vehicle can’t get them.

@todace

We were making several time limited options to purchase vehicles in several cases for different reasons, but in general that is not we do like.

So who is forcing you to remove premium vehicles from the game, only to bring them back once a year to sell a bunch?
Conveniently skipping the 50% sales too.

@todace

FOMO is real thing that will work in any limited options (events, discounts, etc), but not the thing on what you can make long-time relationship

I don’t think your whole team knows this…

@todace

that’s why we are returning some rare vehicles like E100

You mean the 0,0000001% chance of getting it in a lootbox?

@todace

So even such vehicles we do not want to put in Auction

I’ll come back to this in a year or two…

@todace

Another reason (not the main) why we are not going to put vehicles in Auction is that purchase in GJN are the best for content creators revenue share (or even the only option) , but they also not available for console players, which is also very unpleasant and obviously not we are happy about.

But neither is the auction though?

@todace

The reason of ‘refusal to deny’ is that are very old discussions (and as in most cases - come from players suggestions) is to have some kind of option to get vehicle (for limited time or perpetual) when you buy a skin (cause otherwise if some player want a skin but do not have vehicle - there is not much sense for him to buy a skin until he get the vehicle).

And there it is… So possibly the only way to get removed vehicles like tiger 105 or panther 2 is to buy ridiculously overpriced skin and then have the option to buy the vehicle…

Exactly what everyone here is worried about.

@todace

Most developers are scared of how players can percept any changes in progression, store and everything.

As you should be. We are your customers after all.

And i can count the positive changes you’ve made(without massive pushback from us first) on half a hand…

@todace

The Auction was made several years ago, being proposed before Marketplace, but as most are afraid of (some?) players reactions it hadn’t been released.

Should’ve listened to those devs then. This is the most predatory and scummy addition to the game (so far…).

@todace

I personally think that Auction is naturally fit the idea of selling pieces of art

Yeah, if you want to drive the prices as high as possible. But i’m sure you knew that already.

@todace

so forced to give it a try.

No… No you aren’t.

@todace

May be I’m wrong and no one like it.

This thread didn’t tell you the answer??

[Deathmisser]

Well done sir, I couldn’t have put it better !

[Miragen]

The most insane part about the whole thing is that in order to even bid on anything, you have to give your money to Gaijin and you’ll never get it back.

[BadassOscar94]

Right on point!!

[БЕИ]

@Just_Baron

Are you aware that Auctions are essentially gambling? Their uncertainty and risk define them. How is that any different from what was being done before?

You’ve gone a full circle.

For me, the only way they can redeem themselves now is they put the Tiger 2 105, Panther 2 and that weird 341 spaa into auction, maybe I’ll continue to kiss their asses

[Bruce_R1]

@Miragen

The most insane part about the whole thing is that in order to even bid on anything, you have to give your money to Gaijin and you’ll never get it back.

Also when you think about it why auction camoes have to be bought from creators on a fixed rate and they can never get a percentage of the total sale.

Right now there’s a lot of GJN sloshing around and one of the few ways to get it converted back into real currency (along with store gifting) is converting camo creators balances over 500 GJN to real cash.

So… Imagine you had a lot of GJN, and camo creators get 30% or more of a total auction sale. All you have to do then is make a deal with a camo creator to drive the price on the item WAY up, pour GJN into it and get that creator to convert the lot for you. So yeah, however they do this, the camo creator gets a fixed amount (probably the current cap of 800 GJN) and the company keeps the rest.

[Deathmisser]

And you will just make this worse for most of us, I can easily see them going for 1K after the bid ended.

[meki98]

And in case there is any confusion about the opinions

There is the poll here

Meet the Auction POLL

the new auction feature is seems to not have a great reception but that is opinion. i am wanting a quantitative answer. poll Many thanks all who reply.

And gaijin said a while ago that 80% never payd for the game

Even if we are bold enough to assume all those 80% free to play players voted no and don’t count them

The remaining 20% paying costumer’s would still push the dislike Ratio above 50%
And a like Ratio of a staging 10%(if my Math is correct).

And this is REALLY Reading the Numbers in gaijin favor and the numbers still look horrible

[Miragen]

I don’t believe that half these bets aren’t Gaijin bots anyways.

This is more humanlike behaviour.

This is not.

[pwr013]

@Miragen

you have to give your money to Gaijin and you’ll never get it back.

And there is also no guarantee that you can even buy something interesting to you with the purchased GJN, since the final auction bids may be too high. Much more than you are willing to spend. And you will be faced with a choice: either buy more GJN, or consider these funds uselessly lost.

[Deathmisser]

Funny how all end in zeros lol

[ItsOnyy]

Well said.

The fact that they are dodging all questions about the ethics of this concerns me, they are dead set on doubling down and going through with this regardless of what the community thinks, this announcement feels more like a formality more than an actual honest interaction with the community.

[Miragen]

No one bidding $69 is the most suspicious part.

[AuroraBoreaIis]

This tired excuse again. Gaijin has a certain amount of resources (money) to spend and can probably scale teams up and down quickly based on needs, especially with freelance devs. Money spent on a marketplace team dev is money not spent on the bug fixing team.

[Miragen]

They really need to allow you to cash out GJN after a failed auction, otherwise it’s nefarious as shit.

[Leinadmix9_ツ]

@todace

May be I’m wrong and no one like it.

I literally have yet to find a single comment in favor of the auctions in this thread

[wayne95]

Remove this. It is a horrible way to monetize cosmetics and maybe even Vehicles at a later time.

[Spectre626]

Had to scroll down on the current bids window, shows 100 bids, so the 150 was still there, but it starts at the 6 lowest, weird setup there.

[Deathmisser]

Yeah, you would thought with the already high emotion they wouldn’t make any changes like this

[Dontkev-psn]

@gromvoiny are there plans to bring the recent added premium packs regular in the PlayStation store? Currently they are still only via In game or Webbrowser to find, but not on an PlayStation itself (except the BMD-4M, this one is normal and also visible on PS)