Right, But let’s say a new player really wanted a camo or whatever item may come from that silver lion auction. He cannot get it because of his SL balance.
Just because you’re a new player or maybe you have IRL commitments and can’t play much shouldn’t limit you from new and cool things.
This is my personal opinion of course, But changing this test auction to the SL one won’t change much i feel.
You are right, lets say that a new player may have to pay anyway for anything he want 🤣
Its about as clear as day that players dont even want it added to the game. Its a scummy addition through and through. There’s nothing to constructively criticize. Dont add it is pretty clear feedback.
Now lets say that very same new player is around the age that many started the game, so around 12-14 (coincidentally the age rating of the game) and wanted a nice camo.
This either locks such a player from this new content completely considering the exorbitant prices auctions entail, or teaches them very questionable spending habits.
SL can be bought, but GJN can’t be earned.
The idea is good, but it is necessary to make an auction for in-game currency
There’s multiple event’s each year what gets you vehicles/other items you can sell for GJN coin.
shame… SHAME… SHAME
“Just participate in our FOMO events that we refuse to adjust based off player feedback. Because everyone loves grinding 45,000 points in two days and that totally hasnt been brought up every single event announced”. Or hey, just buy some Gaijin coins because the entire purpose of this for Gaijin to scrap as much off of these transactions.
Yeah, I mean, if you want to get spun up over something, consider that a GJN can be bought for 1 USD or 1 Euro roughly, or about .60 of either of those in Russian currency at the moment, same as anything else based on the Pixelstorm store. So any mechanic with GJN/GE based economics are always going to come with built-in disadvantages for western players at the moment. To me all that’s not worth getting worked up about though.
This seems like something that if it comes to the game despite a whole forum post of comments saying do not add it, War Thunder will tank on steam reviews. Like this is the warning from the player base. We are letting Gaijin know right now, a clear majority seem to be against this. There is nothing to tweak or fix or improve or adjust.
So do you think it’s better that children can pay 50bucks for some profile pic or skin in the auction?
This system is inherently predatory and literally designed to drive prices up. And for digital stuff you can infinitely copy…
They are already copying vehicle… So camo or not …
there is an online game that has been around for almost 20 years, and has always had an internal auction system with coins inside the game. Is it so difficult to copy something that already exists and works well? World of Warcraft.
it’s normal for those who have been playing for more years to have more SL… but maybe they’re unlucky with drops and have millions but can’t spend them, whereas a new player maybe has luck with a drop but doesn’t have SL to buy things in the game… in this case he can sell the drop for many SL, fix his finances in the game and a veteran can spend his SL which would otherwise be useless.
and in any case for both it remains the shortcut of the golden eagles if they want.
they all lived happily ever after.
I’m sorry but this is just tone deaf, “Hey our own currency is free, you just have to grind for hours on end for 2 weeks straight, isolating yourself from your family and any other commitments like other hobbies or a job to get a coupon to sell for 20GJN, or you can just skip all of that and buy our currency”
In that case the new player should have to earn the silver lions by playing the game, they also wouldn’t miss out on anything if Gaijin’s whole system depends on predatory FOMO behaviour.
And again the predatory FOMO strikes again, people have jobs, hobbies, family and friends which they can’t just drop for this game.
If you read through the thread instead of jumping the gun like most people do, You’ll know i posted my concern about it.
Which was my point about the suggestion / comment about changing it to a SL auction? People will miss out either way. I feel you missed my point entirely.
Coin that can only be brought into circulation by someone paying, and will be cut off by 15% through each transaction.
There is no way to morally justify artificial rarity in auctions for an audience of kids.
We released the Auction with the intention of making it an experimental feature, aimed to support community content creators. The items that will be offered for sale will be made by content creators and the authors of these items will get a percentage from the total sales as a reward.
We may add other cosmetic items besides the ones currently available during the Auction testing period. The purpose of the Auction is to provide an opportunity to purchase cosmetic items of interest without having to rely on luck, as well as to give authors the opportunity to receive a reward that corresponds to the demand for the items they create.
Not a pourcentage, 100% .
And are you going to put vehicles ?
How long until the “community content” will include community created vehicles like the recent Swiss P-16 which coincidentally has been removed from the store?
Or better yet a “content creator” (someone on the dev team) makes a vehicle which in no time at all will be sold in the auction with all of the money going back to Gaijin.
Again looking at the past actions of Gaijin it is inevitable that they do something like this. There is a clear history of anti-consumer/predatory behaviour from Gaijin and this only adds to it.
Also it’s great to see that after all the backlash the only response is a regurgitated comment from the initial announcement, no questions answered, no concerns or criticism responded too either.
I’d actually suggest a different system. Rather than making an auction to use predatory artificial scarcity, add GE camouflages made by content creators to the game directly. Content creators can then get a share of each sale of their camouflages.
This allows for more camouflages in game, makes them available to all players including consoles and doesn’t pressure players by artificial rarity or bring us closer to the dumpster fire that would ensue if there were vehicles auctioned.
If it’s supposed to be limited time camos, even that is fine, but the artificial scarcity and overly inflated prices shouldn’t stay.
(Sorry for language, but I just don’t see an auction providing any player benefit that couldn’t be achieved without the negatives)