Me 410 B-2/U1

[Ghostmaxi]

• Yes
• No

I would like to suggest the Me 410 B-2/U1, this version was intended for the Zerstörer role, meaning to attack both bombers and land and sea units such as ships, landing operations, soft vehicles and armored targets. For this role it was equipped with armor and dedicated Armament of 2x 13mm Mg 131, 2x 15 mm Mg 151/15 (with H-Pzgr against tanks) and 2x 30 mm Mk 103 as well as an Telescopic scope.
It was used on both the Western and Eastern front, though with more emphasis on Bombers (west) and Tanks (east).

The Me 410 Series was an improved version (as well as rebuild Me 210s) of the Me 210 intended as a improved replacement for the Bf 110, in the end it didnt fully replace the Bf 110, however was still a worthy next generation.

Inteded for a multitude rolls from Ground striking, long range protection and air defence.
For that rolls it had a multitude of different armarments (Mg 17, Mg 131, Mg 151, Mg 151/20, Mk 103, Bk 5) as well as the internal bomb bay that could fit 250 kg bombs, or 2x 500 kg bombs, or (with partly open doors) a 1000 kg bomb.
For a different use the above mentioned armarment of Mg 17-Mg 151/20 could be further improved by additional armarment such as Mg 151 (/20) and Mk 103 (like in this suggestion) or a Bk 5 placed into the bomb bay. Additionally further Gun Pods could be fixed under the central fusulage, meaning the most guns possible, are 2x Mg 131 and 8x Mg 151 (/20) could be fixed centrally on 1 plane (if needed).

This spcific B-2/U1 was inteded for ground striking, keeping the frontal 2x 13mm Mg 131, 2x 15mm Mg 151/15 and 2x 30mm Mk 103, while the similar plane (allready in game) for the Night hunting and bomber hunting is the radar equipped Me 410 B-6/R3.

Overall

In game it would offer a lower Br and slightly different armament, with scope and without the radar to the B-6/R2 and overall a fun and effective armament especially against tanks when fully loaded with H-Pzgr. in both the 15 and 30mm guns, effectively offering lots of ammo (15mm 350 rpg) against light to medium tanks and (30mm 100 rpg) against medium and Heavy tanks. Additionally you have 2x Mg 131 with 600 rpg against Air targets as well as unarmored and lightly armored ground targets.

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Pictures:(Click to show)

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The Me 410 B-2/U1
Armament:
2x 30 mm Mk 103 100 rpg
2x 15 mm Mg 151/15 350 rpg
2x 13 mm Mg 131 600 rpg
2x 13 mm Mg 131 (Defensive)
For more Info on these guns and ammo click here to see my informal Post about WW2 German Aircraft Guns and Ammo 7,92mm-88mm

Performance of the plane:
Max speed
at 6 750 m 600 km/h
Turn time 30 s
Max altitude 10 250 m
Engine 2 х Daimler-Benz DB-603A
Type Inline
Cooling system Water
Take-off weight 11 t

Features
Combat flaps Take-off flaps Landing flaps Air brakes Arrestor gear
✓ ✓ ✓ ✓ X

Limits
Wings (km/h) Gear (km/h) Flaps (km/h) Max Static G
Combat Take-off Landing + -
750 350 457 428 280 ~12 ~4

Optimal velocities (km/h)
Ailerons Rudder Elevators Radiator
< 360 < 360 < 460 > 265

Source:
Handbuch der Flugzeugbordwaffenmunition 1936-1945
Me 410 Manual
War Thunder Wiki
Messerschmitt Me 410 Schusswaffenanlage Bedienvorschriften Wa Me 410 B-2/U1 Mk 103

[Insanerobert]

Yes for this bird! Also, I would like to see the Me.410 Torpedo variant as well (I believe it was the B5).

[JamesPond1200]

You could strafe pretty much anything with this. Equip all three guns with AP/HVAP belts and you won’t have any issues! +1

[WalletWorrier]

Interesting it has the 15mm instead of 20s

[Ghostmaxi]

Appart from that Aparently every Plane (officially) had the availability to exchange them (beyond that it was designed to be easily a barrle change) There are some others that are intended in the first place to have the 15mm guns, such as the B-2/U4, which is like the B-1/U4, but most often with scope and Well,
the 15mm guns. (Which ill also made a suggestion for, pending.)

Pictures of B-2/U4:(Click to show)

If only the 15mm Ammo wouldnt be absolut Dog poop against Crew and modules behind armor, and finally corrected from “Ball” ammo to “Small Cannon” Shells, as the 15mm ammo is in fact full steel driving band, and not a core with lead and a copper jacket.
In game would result in a tiny shrapnell cone (see 20mm Rh 202 as example, just a bit weaker then.) instead of nothing and a wet fart in the face of the crew.
I mean its unrealistic to say the least that the 39g Thungsten core at 1050 (well behind armor a less) M/S is making the crew a bit yellow, and to modules nothin. Or that the 72g Full steel Shot does the same or even less.

[KillaKiwi]

@Ghostmaxi

In game it would offer a lower Br and slightly different armament, with scope and without the radar to the B-6/R2 and overall a fun and effective armament especially against tanks when fully loaded with H-Pzgr.

Why a lower BR though? 🤔

Nice that you were able to dig up more 15mm MG 151 armed planes.

[Tiatn]

what BR do you want it at? 8.0?

[Ghostmaxi]

@KillaKiwi

Why a lower BR though?

No radar, no 20mm Minengeschosse, less Mk 103 ammo. 4.3? Idk.

[Ghostmaxi]

Difference to the other models is also that the lower front bullet proof glass windows are also replaced with metal plates. (Same is also for the A-1/U4 and B-2/U4, which for some reason isnt implemented in game.)