Me 262 in its proper tier

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That’s, wrong, the A2D has faster acceleration, not top speed, you can easily BNZ it.

You could even dogfight it depending on the respective energy states.

Not if it’s slow, it way out-turns you in a one circle, but you have a slight chance in a 2-circle.

As I said depending on the respective energy state.
What the swallow hates is being “low and slow”. If you avoid that you can do well against late props but if your team leaves you hanging you can’t do much on your own since you can’t quite go on the offensive before creating an opening as some other planes can.

Those are end of the line props, I’m talking about ealier things like AD-2 or F-82

Well, they also need to stop planes, especially large bombers, falling appart from 20mm rounds.

That hit wasn’t lethal but just made it easier for the crew to breath in some fresh air.
But in WT a bomber would have lost the tail from a single 30mm Mineshell or any 37mm HE round.

Wasn’t that aircraft stationary? Usually those kinds of pictures come from ‘controlled’ testing.

http://www.daveswarbirds.com/b-17/fuselage.htm

According to this site it was either a Me 262s cannon or a 88mm shell.

But since an 88mm shell carries like 700-1000g of explosives, were for the most part time fuzed and not time + impact fuzed, as well as the lack of fragmentation, I would say it was definately one, probably a couple, 30mm Mineshell(s).