McDonnell Douglas F-4D Phantom II (Late) - The ANG’s Late-Serving Phantom

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This suggestion was originally posted on the legacy forum and has been imported over here following its permanent shutdown.

McDonnell F-4D-31-MC Phantom II (s/n 66-7750). Photo credited to https://commons.wikimedia.org.
McDonnell F-4D-31-MC Phantom II (s/n 66-7750). Photo credited to https://commons.wikimedia.org.1920×1285 193 KB

McDonnell Douglas F-4D Phantom II

   Hello everybody. I’d like to reintroduce and suggest the McDonnell Douglas F-4D Phantom II, a second version of the F-4 that entered the United States Air Force service. To put it briefly, it is a modified F-4C with enhanced avionics and access to advanced missiles and countermeasures during its late service. It is known for using AIM-4D Falcons to score five confirmed kills.

Key Characteristics

  • Fighter-Bomber / Interceptor / Jet Fighter
  • Modified F-4C with newer avionics
  • Second most produced variant in the F-4 Phantom II family
  • New AN/APQ-109A capable of guiding AGM-62 Walleyes and AGM-65 Mavericks with TV imagery
  • Access to new AIM-4D Falcon missiles
  • Capable of equipping newer missiles such as AIM-9J and AIM-7E-2
  • Capable of equipping countermeasures, whereas the F-4C lacked them

Air National Guard F-4D and Upgrades

   Below are photographs of Air National Guard F-4Ds with AIM-9J missiles and countermeasure dispensers. We can see serial numbers on these aircraft, confirming these F-4Ds had received such a configuration in ANG service.

F-4D Livery Examples

   If F-4D Phantom II is to be added to War Thunder, it should have a list of unlockable skins, such as the SEA scheme, Colonel Robin Olds’ F-4D, several ANG schemes, the Iranian Air Force scheme, and the Republic of Korea Air Force scheme. Below are photographs as examples of various liveries.

Conclusion | Why it should be in the game

   The McDonnell Douglas F-4D Phantom II is another variant of the F-4 Phantom II that offers more modern avionics and weaponry over the F-4C. The F-4D variant would be a logical addition to a folder with the F-4C in the US aviation tech tree. The F-4D will enjoy many advantages over the F-4C, as it can carry flares and AIM-9J and AIM-7E-2, whereas the F-4C struggles with its lack of countermeasures and subpar missiles. I firmly believe the F-4D deserves its place in War Thunder and completes the Phantom family in War Thunder.

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Thank you for taking the time to read my suggestion! 😃

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I 'd love to see this variant of the Phantom ingame but also the G '“Wild Weasel” !

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too many f-4 version bruh… no more i need smth new not the same thing that make me should download more without enjoy it

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Heck yes, +1. Put it into a folder so it doesn’t bother the top tier rushers and bam, another nice phantom.

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I think the F-4C/D were later modified to carry AIM-9L and AIM-7F much later in life with the ANG
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Along with later Sparrows and Sidewinders, the Phantom could theoretically get the XAIM-4H, since that was basically just an AIM-4D with proxy-fuse and better maneuverability (and it was intended to be fitted to aircraft that used the AIM-4D)

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Also, there are a few more F-4D skins we could potentially see:

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Nice find! I can confirm the aircraft in the photo is F-4D belonged to New York Air National Guard 136th Fighter Interceptor Squadron. Is there a better photo where we can see the AIM-7F mounted on the F-4D?

Do you know if it is possible for the F-4D to get the AIM-4G? I have come to a dead end in my research to find more advanced missiles for the F-4 in ANG service and verify it.

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Also, we can get to see these skins! One with shark mouth decal and inscription, and other one with non-military scheme.

McDonnell F-4D-26-MC Phantom 65-0586

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Here is one carrying an AGM-65B.
F-4D

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Frankly, I think you would enjoy it much more over a F-4C in 10.0 battles, but hey I suggested it to be foldered with F-4C, so it doesn’t impede your grind!

Of course, that is what my suggestion stands for. It just offers a better alternative to the F-4C, so you can be competitive against MiG-21MF/SMT with their already existing countermeasures. Otherwise, it can be also a squadron vehicle. I’ll let Gaijin to decide for that with consideration.

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uuhhhh great idea

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I’d like to see a late 60s configuration with 9Es, 4Ds, and 7Es for 10.3, rather than essentially a second F-4E.

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I’m not looking at the F-4D under the impression it would be TT. The F-4E is already there lol.

If anything, we’d be more likely to get a second, later F-4E in the tree foldered with the current F-4E (with a whole load of stuff), then the F-4D could be premium, even, squadron, whatever else it could fit as.

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That image was just a ref for the 9L
I’m pretty sure most Phantoms that had 7E/7E-2 ended up getting 7F at some point, since the 7F was meant to be the main improvement over the E

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Looks like the perfect 10.7 gap filler honestly

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All for it, +1. Its an excellent 10.3 stop gap to fill the mediocrity of the F-4C. I would love to see this, along with another naval Phantom (F-4B) and an actual Vietnam war-spec F-4E (and give the current F-4E its late 1970’s ANG-service kit with more guided munitions and all-aspects)

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-1 for the Iranian design. +1 for the F-4D Phantom II. Most likely it would be ether BR 10.3 or 10.7. I also don’t think they would add the Iranian camouflage because US doesn’t like them I’d say a Iranian F-4 Phantom II for China perhaps.

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I kind of agree, OP used a picture of an IRIAF (post-revolution) F-4D camo, when it should actually be the pre-revolution IIAF (pre-revolution) instead, as Iran used to be a US ally back then:

No, that is just worthless copy-paste. China has no gaps at that tier that can’t be filled by domestic models

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Oh yea, there’s also the Korean one if a tree for that country comes around ))))))

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F-4C Phantom II is now 10.7, and I think it is urgent to add the necessary F-4D with better missiles and countermeasures as a substitution since the F-4C is struggling in current meta of air RB.

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Maybe an modified/upgraded Iranian F-4D that uses Iranian, Chinese and Russian weapons and/or systems otherwise no