+1 nice to have, probably will sit at 10.0, since MF is 10.7
+1, with the recent decompression change there is more space to add incremental modifications and variants to the game. This reminds me of an idea floated around for the addition of the MiG-21SM in the Soviet tree between the F-13 and SMT.
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Yes, the one problem would be the SM has the more powerful R-13 engine. It’s identical to the MF. I think the S would be more comparable, though with the S (R-13-300) already in-game IDK if thats likely
Basically, the S getting R-13Ms definitely would mean that the S (R-13-300) should get 13Ms, becuase having a later model with worse weapons would be really strange. Then that raises the question of BR- at 10.0 the R-13-300 would be a blatant pay-to-win while at 10.3 it would really struggle, and the Soviets don’t have many good premium fighters.
I think the best solution would to remove the S (R-13-300) and replace it with an SM at 10.3, just a MF without countermeasures (R-3R, R-13M, R-60). Then the S (R-11F2S-200) could slide into 10.0 alongside the M.
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Fair enough.
+1
They should not have skipped this MiG-21.
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Absolutely. It’s both historically significant as East Germany’s most numerous jet fighter and fills an empty niche in the German TT.
Limited to rear-aspect only missiles? R-3R/S and R-13M1 or also R-60s?
Also, what’s the difference between R-13M (in specs) and R-13M1?
R-3S, R-3R, and R-13M
No R-13M1, R-60, or R-60MK
R-13M is pretty similar to the M1 but no radar slaving and a 15g overload instead of 20. I think it’s also a bit slower and shorter ranged but I’d have to double-check.
Edit: the M is actually slightly faster because it is a few kilos lighter. But the M1 also has a better seeker with higher track rate and tighter FoV
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it’s kind of funny right. The difference between an S and an SM (iirc) is the engine, the S has the R11F2S-300, and the SM has the R-13-300. The only thing keeping our S from being called an SM is that it doesn’t have an inbuilt cannon.
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+1 Add more fighter aircraft rank VI
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-1 Too dumb, we don’t need more MiG-21s
You can never have too many Migs, just as you can never have enough Phantoms or F-5s
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Ok lets get the F-4B Phantom II, F-4D Phantom II, F-4E Phantom II (With AIM-1202 & AIM-9Ms), and a F-4G Phantom II, and the F-4N Phantom II, F-4A Phantom II
then make som suggestions, brother.
Though the F-4E never carried AMRAAMs nor AIM-9M
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F-4E from USAF never launched AIM-120 AMRAAM
F-4E in 80’s from Air National Guard mounted AIM-9M ?
Might be early premium GE at rank 7 for USA, my guess
In a folder with F-4E
80’s F-4E from Air National Guard ?
I don’t know wild weasel aircraft could add to fighter aircraft line or strike aircraft
In my opinion, before F-4J
Maybe premium GE or next premium pack rank 6 ?
Yes to almost all of these. Also, they’ve mostly already been suggested:
- F-4B
- F-4D
- F-4E 1983-spec – AIM-7F, AIM-9L, more sensor pods, guided munitions and bombs
- F-4G – no suggestion yet, but one could be written. Here’s a discussion thread though.
- F-4N
- F-4S 1984-spec – similar to the F-4E above
- F-4A (F4H-1) hasn’t been brought up for WT afaik, that could be something for an event but not mainline or TT. Would be weird balancing its flight performance and weapons.
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So… u said that the MiG 21M gets the same engine as the Mig 21S, which ingame already gets the R 13-300. I Mean Gaijin could to the way and give it the R 13-300 but keep the R3 only loadouts, essentailly making this a German tech tree MiG 21S
+1
The MiG-21S historically was powered by the R-11F2S-300 except for a very small few later refitted with the R-13-300.