Mbt70 and xm803

Is strange these 2 tank be literally identical and be in different brs just want the real propose for these tanks that have the same gun and the same armor and the same rounds be in a different br and also not only that these tanks cam get down tiers soo ezly to 8.0 and 8.3 all because they are in one of the most played Nation so down tiers for them is not very hard to get and since these 2 are 9.0 tanks with a full 9.0 tank kit they should not even be close to the 8.0 br our even 8.7 br .

People used to say these tanks are weak but they for unknown reason they armor cant be pen by most autocannon’s and even some other bigger calibers cant pen them, the only possible reason why they are in a different br is their commander gun one uses a 50.cal and the other uses a 20mm that has a bit more pen but nothing special about it because its not in the same level as a t72moderna our a turm3.

Also these 2 are more mobile than a lot of tanks in their brs even more mobile than than some top tier tanks all of that in in 9.0 and 9.3 br.

Do you think gaijin should put them in 9.7 our 10.0 but higher their pen by atleast 350mm max ?

Our just put them in a higher br to solve their problem of massive use and nerf them to the ground?

Uh. Personally I think they sjt perfectly at their respective BR. 9.7/10.0 is a very very bad idea. The stock grind is workable considering you start with an ATGM (if I’m not mistaken) that wobbles like crazy. And even then the dart is comparable to other darts of the BR.

If anything it gives the US (and Germany) a top-tier-like low armor MBT. Now sure the fuel tank at the front can be a dice throw as to if it’s gonna absorb the enemy fire or not but still. It’s survivability is good if you play it well. You can easily one-shot it from the front by shooting the side with the two crew members sitting in a tandem position (assuming he’s looking straight ahead both with the hull and turret).

Call me crazy all you want, but as far as I’m concerned it sits in a pretty nice(ish) spot.

Xm803 was built to be a cheaper version of the mbt-70

KPz-70 is by far the best due to the faster reload-rate, MBT-70 is somewhat near the middle and XM-803 is the american version of this vehicle, considered the worst between the two, however is far from a bad vehicle, you can confidentially get good values and a Nuke here or there if played well, the spaced angled armor is a huge benefit against APDS-FS and HEAT as well, it’s not a bad vehicle, but it’s hard to skill due to the rather weaker projectile it can shoot, at the start people will struggle but with most of the important modifications researched, is a very good vehicle to play.