The MBT-70’s and KPZ-70’s 6 second reload rate is extremely unfair against alot of tanks that dont really get autoloaders at the BR of 9.3 , and on top of that the 20MM cannon that it gets makes it extremely unfair to face if you are in a light tank or play light tanks if you are like me , and no one can change my mind about wanting to Nerf the MBT-70 that gets a 6 second autoloader and a 20mm auto cannon on top of the tank which absolutely destroys light tanks , which makes the thing Highly unbalanced , and for that it should atleast be moved up a BR or just in general nerf that thing. not very fun to face almost every game
MBT-70 has a reload rare of 7.5 second and not 6, only KPZ-70 has a reload rate of 6 second
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They don’t have the same reload rate
Interesting argument.
How do you view T-64A and B by the way? Just asking.
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Skill issue xD
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I think that a tank that is playing agaist T-64A , T72A , bmp3, BRMs with a bad missile and only a slow HEAT that needs actual aiming to make a kill is OK at BR9 ;-)
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Aren’t they now like 1 BR different now?
so you want to nerf a tank because you died to It 1 to many times. I also take it youve never had to fight any sort of BMP? and don’t even get me started on reload times, the KPZ is the fastest firing 9.3 for Germany if I’m correct. While I can get the first shot in a Leo with a lvl 51 crew and still get out reloaded. not only that if this went into effect so many people would be demanding French 7.7 autoloaders to be slower. just because you died to it a few times doesn’t mean it needs nerfed
T-64B can still meet 9.3s in full downtier and T-64A is 9.3 last time ive checked.
They both sit at the same 6 sec reload as Kpz70 (and all are faster than MBT70).
OP is complaining only about Kpz70/MBT70.
So, without looking up his statshark, he is either:
A) reacting to the fact he just now in his latest game got killed by MBT70/Kpz70 once
B) isnt aware that there are other tanks that have rhe same OP ability (6 sec reload)
And in either case it shows he didnt put much thought behind his post other than wanting to nag on forums, and i hate naggers.
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He looks like an airman to me, and I am wondering what vehicle was he using?
What tank were you even using? There are some tanks way more powerful. then MBT and KPZ at the same BR.
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Aiming should be alright because it has 14x gunner sight zoom
Among the most flexible and versatile tank in its tier and a war crime in 8.3 for shure it should be at 9.7
The poor armour and low dart damage balance it out tbh. They’re both high skill floor/high skill ceiling vehicles.
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Probably as a piece of garbage without: smoke grenades, commander mg, dual control, great mobility, reverse, lrf, optics, gun depression angles, guidance speeds. Kpz70 has everything in this list. While at same br.
Ok upgrade but inferior to leo2av at same br.
How can +60/-4 km/h with 17 hp/t be faster than +64/-64 km/h with 28.5 hp/t? You are mistaking something probably.
…im talking about reload rate, why are you mentioning mobility?
not the point im going for.
not the point im going for.
point im going for is that OP complains about Kpz70/MBT70 SPECIFICALLY due to rate of fire, but puts it as if there was single tank that 9.3s can see that has 6 second reload.
Im merely asking if he gave more thought to his argument before making it.
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Your sentence was “they sit at 6s reload (and all are faster than mbt70)”. If by “them” you meant 64s then “are faster” part implies they move faster. Misunderstood you. But still. Kpz70 has myriad of advantages besides 6s reload. Same for mbt70/xm803 but they have reload disadvantage.
He mentioned rh202 as another advantage tho.
Oh yes I can agree with this. He probably would have sounded more convincing if he mentioned all other kpz70 advantages which make it one of strongest 9.3.
They already have a nerfed dart, and the MBT-70 gets a 7.5s reload instead of the 6 on the KpZ-70.
Get your aim to work, the middle of the turret is barely protected, and the hull is squishy almost anywhere with enough angling.
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The MBT/KPZ’s are good tanks at their br, but hardly OP when looking at the other tanks in their own br that they face every game
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wait till he finds out about the Type 90
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