F80c now gets a strong buff by no limit WEP, which is even better than MIG15, your post history proves you can’t even use the R2Y2 to against F80C without WEP
SU11 is much faster than R2Y2/326K, and R2Y2/326K are easily chased by diving props, their speed is close to HE162
MD450? That trash is not even worth 7.3 when Sea Meteor is 7.3
If the BR extend will come, then F80c will 100% close to MIG15 due to its agile, which is even better than F86A in dogfight.
Su-11 and Meteor Mk3 are slower than R2Y2 and 326K. Paper data doesn’t mean anything.
TWDR [Thrust-Weight-Drag ratio] for acceleration. Thrust drag relationship at altitudes for top speed.
Then of course the agility boost that 326K and R2Y2 have over Meteor Mk3 which itself is more agile than Su-11.
326K has the best out of all 4, R2Y2 is 2nd.
Su-11 is worse than the Meteor Mk3.
We can discuss F-80C again, and the results will be the same. Likely 8.0, though the WEP bug that impacts ALL timer-based WEP aircraft needs to be fixed.
I understand your concerns. However, bringing up a barely better 262 that’s Soviet isn’t a good example.
I’d bet my money that someone would complain about the MB-326K’s performance, especially when comparing it to aircraft that never existed. This is absurd, and you always get jealous when the Italian TT receives any decent vehicle.
This reminds me the Sagittario II.
I feel you man…
R2Y2 along with the Ho-ri’s should just be removed and refunded to anyone who bought em.
No, but you see, they’re too busy buffing them instead.
wow, such crybabies about a vehicle existing.
I would be happy with 7.7.
Once upon a time it was 6.7 and it still had an airspawn and everything, then it got nerfed and somehow gained a 1.3 BR increase despite being objectively worse than it used to be.
Imagine pulling out the fact of non-existence in order to justify its forced “balancing”, implying it should be wiped out completely to RIP… oh wait
Atp let’s just remove German veteran 7.0 lineup, so noone can ever cry about it being inaccessible or broken. Ah yes…
SU11 is the fastest one, no idea where you got your paper data. And SU11 is almost the best 7.3 jets in the game.
326K is better than R2Y2 at low speed due to it’s TWDR is better, and the reason why Meteor MK3 is not worth 7.3 is due to the same reason, Sea Meteor MK3 is much better.
SU9 could be a concern as a better 262, but not for SU11; the difference between SU9 and SU11 is close to F80C and P80A. even more due to SU11’s agility is better as well.
So you only think I was complaining about MB-32KK instead of asking R2Y2 to get better BR?
The MB-326K is armed with only 2 30 mm guns, compared to the 4 that the R2Y2 carries, which also has a ground belt, which is often why the R2Y2 is used as a ground attacker.
The MB-326k may come equipped with bombs and rockets.
However, those 2 fewer guns make a massive difference in how it will perform when fighting other bombers and fighters.
Also, the engines of all R2Y2s can hit up to 960. Their flaps rip within the 320->498 KPH range.
So I don’t know who to believe, the ones who own it or the one who clearly never flew it.
Another case of persecutory delusion…
You got 2 30mm gun pods, and there will only be a slight impact on your FM, and don’t forget the one-second burst mass. At 8.0 only using guns to CAS is like suicide, to be honest
Ok, and? 2 30mm pods=drag=slower turn/bleed energy faster and makes you a slower target.
What is lighter, a pound of cardboard or a pound of tungsten?
Have you ever compared the FM difference when it takes 30mm pods or not?
Bud flight models aren’t the only thing you need to factor in. Even if you have a better flight model, that does not mean you are going to outperform the R2Y2. While carrying 2 extra 30mm gunpods.
What are you talking about…
Yeah, I’m sure it will be bumped in BR, it’s always funny to see how people start to complain when Italy gets some playable stuff and then wonder why nobody play the Italian TT. Or like Gaijin itself insert entire MiGs line so people can avoid playing overtiered planes of Italian origin.
Although imo R2Y2 could get some br decrease, since it lost its airspawn it isn’t 8.0 material.