Before the devs out right rejected reports on empty mass by value.
yo gunjob man why’d my report get marked as not a bug and closed? isn’t localhost:8111 incorrectly exposed? shouldn’t it only be used for developer debugging purposes?
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/JlEpJCjxhrLZ
unless of course… 8111 values aren’t data mining… but who knows….
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/WNsAur2AmLPG
hi where did the weight value for this report come from?
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/dHD314fh65fr
How did this bug report get passed to developers when it cited a specific empty weight that could only be derived from localhost or datamining?
Localhost isn’t, using the FM tools attached to it pulls values from the blk which is datamined in the devs eyes, but also including useless images in your reports such as the “free ipad” one is simply taking the piss.
It was after follow up reports from that one that lead to the values no longer being accepted.
what ur sayin makes literally every fm bug report based on weight impossible and makes it infinitely harder to bug report incorrect weights of different planes, which is taking the piss more than a “free ipad” image
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/UOykyOWckDU6
Here is another one that used datamined values.
I understand the challenge that presents, equally as impacted by it myself. But its the devs who set the standard, I just have to follow it.
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/9QH3h6c5VVpC
Where in the game can the MICA diameter be tested or derived?
This isn’t even a value from localhost.
So why was this one passed?
its not a challenge its literally impossible since empty weights for planes literally cannot be pulled from anywhere else except from localhost unless there is some alternative way in game to find the empty weight of planes which is unknown to seemingly everyone?
additionally a trillion bug reports already using “datamined” figures have already been passed? this “standard” is stupid and creates unnecessary challenges for what reason exactly?
Gunjob, this report is only from 13 days ago yet is accpeted and my one has been shut because of “datamines” even when using the localhost (which is not datamining) to pull the numbers from.
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/WNsAur2AmLPG
I would really like to know how you think I am intended to bug report any weights at all when all the ways of knowing the weights are wrong (the only way to know that they even need correcting) is labled “datamines”?
Localhost completely avoids datamines and pulls the info directly from the game. Local host is even what the devs have “asked” people to use instead of stuff like WTRTI when bug reporting engine power issues with aircraft.
Simply I don’t have a way or suggestion on how you would do it anymore, once they started rejecting them based on the empty weight value.
Sorry it is what it is, I can’t change that.
This just in: VSN finally figures out how to do even less work than he already does by denying every report based on weight

Can this policy be clarified then? As myself and others have pointed out, there have been multiple reports about empty weight of vehicles in game that have been accepted based on datamined or localhost values.
It appears that this policy is only selectively enforced.
pleeeease vssnn i neeeeeed thiiis…
Well then that means every weight adjustment that gets reported from now on will ALWAYS be labled not a bug according to that…
I fail to see how this can be the case and why the devs would decide to do this when planes (such as the mb326) are sometimes massively overweight and we as players have no routes to even report these historical inaccuracies even though we have OEM manual/sources that prove beyond a doubt the weights are incorrect.
could we have a clarification on the circumstances of the linked report?

this is so funny, since theres no mass given anywhere inside of ingame stats you cant use it? So you have to wait for a wiki page to update to report it?
Datamined values were accepted less than 2 weeks ago for the Hawk 200. So why did that one get passed if the Rafale weight report was the “cut-off” for using datamine / localhost values?