Heh, would you look at that, 80,000 RP per hour which is a peak reached only in Yak-28 when smaller maps were available.
I assume they’re talking about ground RB, ARB has a functioning economy that is only held back by Gaijins poor decisions to force faster matches.
Ground RB earns way less RP for more effort.
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Well, multiply 5 by 2.5 and you get how many ground battles frags needed for that RP in a 13.5 minute match.
Suggesting to punish the players as a way to curb some kind of issue never works and just upsets the playerbase just fyi
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Its actually sad how much better RP rewards air has
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versus:
Number 1 in a practically stock banshee that doesn't even have full flight performance and only 3 kills
ARB and GRB are nowhere comparable
Even my yak-1 gets more RP in ARB than the tiger so you can’t even go “different BRs”
Now, if you’re not number 1 it gets far worse.
A bad game in my F8U-2 still nets me some 2-3K RP for a 5-7 minute match. Like, legit - shoot 4 missiles, get maybe 1 or 2 kills.
A full-effort game that goes badly in my cent 3/cent 1/bosvark/eland/charioteer gives me sth like 2-3K RP for 20 minutes.
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@Ion_Protogen @Discord_Guy
Aight, I found a match with that performance with the equivalent of playing 9.3 ground RB: 440% RP multiplier.
18350RP with a reward multiplier of up to 444%.
So 16 frags at 9.3 ground tech tree vehicles with an 18 minute match would create this result.
@Cyvell_シ
Air doesn’t have respawns. Ground has a minimum of 2 spawns, and 3 with 3 frags.
Now get a 2 kill 1 assist full 25 minute match in air and you get maybe 12-15k RP, 15 kill games in ground only occur like 1 in every 100 matches if not less, even for really good players. not to mention your 4 zone caps either, thats also not very easy to get either.
Also, since you used CAS: @AlvisWisla A significant portion of that went to researching aircraft, not ground vehicles.
Also you’re showing a BR 12 rank VIII vehicle.
My rank 3 BR 4.0 plane got me 6K RP in a 15 minute game.
My rank 5 BR 7.0 plane got me 8.3K RP in a 15 minute game.
Even with premium, cent mk3 RP multiplier is ~350% AND
You’re literally, before any vehicle modifiers, get 0.7/1.22 = 57% of RP per time alive at 100% activity, and getting 100% activity in GRB if you are respawning gets really weird because it’s not perfectly per match, but rather seems split between vehicles.
Air match won’t get that much RP with 2 frags.
It’ll be the same as 5ish frags in ground when multipliers are the same.
Ground matches should be a minimum of 3 frags as you have 3 free crew slots. 5 crew slots with SL.
@RunaDacino <1000 of RP went to aircraft.
Aircraft and tanks generate the same exact amount of RP in ground battles per action done.
BTW, <1000 is 5% of the earned RP.
Please be honest when there’s screenshot evidence disproving your post before you even post.
Remember that both mine and Runas matches are done without premium account multipliers.
Meanwhile in air:
All of these matches are either shorter, or with worse performance than the ground match you showed. Even a 7 minute match with 3 kills gives me 8000 RP. As a fun bonus I’ll leave you with this match in my Il-28.
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You’re literally, before any vehicle modifiers, get 0.7/1.22 = 57% of RP per time alive at 100% activity, and getting 100% activity in GRB if you are respawning gets really weird because it’s not perfectly per match, but rather seems split between vehicles.
Here is a game where I was almost inactive, my cat having broken a vase with plants I had to be absent. Almost 5kRP without doing anything
I just realized there was a 10% booster. But after a few hundred RPs we are there.
Want something even dumber?
I literally head-on suicided in this match. Less than 5 minutes spent alive.
Researching a Rank IV plane with a rank 5 plane (so RP penalty of -70%)
So.
is going to be somehting like x - x*0.7 = 490. I cba to maths so have the google answer:
@AlvisWisla I literally took off, put full afterburner on in the f8u-2, suicided into the first plane I saw in less than 5 minutes of gameplay.
I got 1633 RP.
(why is it a-26B that I’m researching? I ran out of stuff to RP and have no sl to unlock rank VII)
Also this makes ASB hurt even more.
made 10k SL suiciding, spent 4K on repairing the F8U-2. Profit of 6K SL for absolute braindead gameplay.
… In ASB…
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Which is entirely irrelevant, as multipliers can be compared across the scale.
18350RP with ground match. 16 frags. 272% gave 993 RP.
444% gave 15118 RP.
284% gave 2238 RP.
Normalizing these:
3404 base RP.
788 base RP.
365 base RP.
4557 base RP total that match.
19350RP with air match, 5 frags.
488% multiplier. 3965 base RP.
3965/4557 = 0.87 * 16 frags = 14 frags. The air match with my F-111F was the equivalent of getting 14 frags in ground RB.
14/5 = 2.8 frags in ground for every frag in air. Which is accurate since GROUND YOU RESPAWN.
RP is mostly time played more than individual actions done.
@RunaDacino Once again, that’s because ground RB has respawns. You are EXPECTED to get a minimum of 2 frags per match of ground RB vs 1 of air. Of course there is going to be a difference, there should be a difference for fairness after all.
And yeah, I’ve done that in Abrams where I rushed the enemy and got 3 frags, getting over 2000 RP in less than 3 minutes.
Again, ground RB does and should always expect you to spawn multiple times. That’s why rewards are correctly lower per action.
If you want air RB per-action rewards in ground, you want a no-respawn ground mode.
Game already does this. “time played x % participation”.
You are looking at the symptom not the problem. Look at your screen shots again. Besides the bunch of 1 death leavers, what is the other common factor? Hint: Its in the first 2 or 3 on the scoreboard. Players have learned that if they’ve gotten a game that has “ringers” in it, be they cheaters or “pros” having a “gud game”, it saves time and cost to just bail the first time you get zapped from across the board instead of just keep feeding them kills.
So if you want this fixed in 2025, you want player performance based matchmaking.
5 minutes of braindead gameplay ARB (F8U-2): 1600 RP, 6K SL income.
15 minutes, game won, 3rd in team, capped, 92% activity, skill bonus:
11:30 mminute gmae, second position in team, mission won:
Meanwhile:
Suicide F8U-2 into enemy like a braindead idiot:
RP is again x - x 0.7 = 433 so, x = 1433
New record btw. 4 minute game for 1400 RP. Literally take off, fly straight at first mig-21/mig-23 I see and hold down the trigger.
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Both are “braindead”. Abrams mobility is as “braindead” as it gets.
Take a route no one ever takes, profit off of the easy flank cause no one ever takes that route so no one checks it.
These ground RB matches are so common for me that I just don’t screenshot them.
I only really screenshot the >12 frag matches in ground cause a 5 frag match is at most equal to a 2 frag air match in both skill required and rewards.
4 minutes of take off, suicide into first enemy for 1433 RP in a
Play for 12 minutes and get heavy metal hero: 3770 RP in a
Now, 226% is higher than 178%.
3770 RP if it was at 226% would be 3770/178*226= 4700 RP.
Doing 3 braindead suicide flights still gives comparable RP for far less skill and effort.
You cannot go more braindead than full afterburner on take off into the nearest enemy bomber without breaking rules and griefing.
Point proven thank you for that