Well, I don’t dislike your Idea either, it is also fair and reasonable, and understandable.
but in a different point of view, I guess.
For me, I like Matilda tanks too, but I want more and more players to enjoy their Matildas too.
Don’t worry about that.
with a little bit of joke, our friends from Easts are ready, and will bring some fancy soviet vehicles to us as a sub-tree.
We already have some of them!
I was going to mention, Britain got India, so Soviet lend lease shouldn’t be an issue.
Well, There are quite a much of ours who dislike India as Subtree but want ANZAC or Canada instead.
Also dislikes Soviet C&P either.
(I am fine with India as a subtree of UK as long as they also bled for King and country before, and still maintaining closer relationships with us. unless Players from India want an independent TT instead. If they want Independent TT just like Israel does, I also understand that opinion too. )
So, I think both opinions are reasonable.
And i think that they should not be added in the first place because they are not even Indian - if i want to play a T-90 then i should be playing soviet tree and not the British.
Nowhere did the OP mention this vehicle being proposed as a tech-tree researchable vehicle.
The USSR has the SU-57, Valentine, M3 Lee, Matilda (with a Russian-made 76 mm gun),and M4A2 as premium vehicles in its ground vehicles tree. Based on this pattern, I’m certain that newer lend-lease vehicles will also come as premiums, regardless.
Also, the USSR should receive lend-lease vehicles like this one, as well as others that had meaningful service with the Red Army. The point is to add more flavor to the game. I would love to see more Matilda variants for both the UK and the USSR.
I voted +1 for all lend-lease vehicles for the USSR because I enjoy mixing domestic and lend-lease vehicles in my ground lineup. This allows me to historically roleplay as one of the Red Army units that actually used those vehicles in real life.
so america should get mig 21 and mig 23 and T90m ? and pantsir ?
along with me262 tiger 2 list goes on yoou get the point
why not both? it was a lend lease vehicle and we have a hell of a lot of domestic stuff to keep the British tree unique. britain isn’t losing anything by having the vehicles it gifted out going where they were gifted
Neither of these were ever captured in functional condition. Only fake headlines claiming we did.
The USAF-captured MiG-21, MiG-23, and other Soviet aircraft were used by the 4477th Test and Evaluation Squadron. These aircraft were never deployed in any combat operations outside of the United States.
I cannot speak for the T-90M and Pantsir, but it seems they were only evaluated to gather information and were never used in active service.
I fail to see how these vehicles are relevant to this discussion, especially since the Soviet-operated Matilda did see combat, unlike the aforementioned vehicles.
Indian pantsir soon tho
they didnt see combat so not really
That’d be funny, seeing if the deal actually holds up is another question.
neither did the russian F5E
I can understand his feeling, but his claim also sounds a bit disappointing because
We already gave Spitfire, Firefly or some Crusaders to the other TT before
And we exported harriers to the US too.
But we didn’t lose our Uniqueness at all.
(Of course these can be annoying for some of us. right?)
the F5 is at least a cool plane that wasn’t a pile of scrap like soviet vehicles are
we also sent centurions to every continent and its not taken away from our uniqueness as we are still the home nation for those vehicles. the spam of commieslop from the indian subtree does hurt uniqueness tho
yep a cool American plane
Still irrelevant. We’re talking about the foreign vehicles that served in the Red Army with actual combat records, which makes this suggestion more valid than others. The debate about the Soviet F-5E should stay in its own topic since it required different opinion there, not here.