That’d be funny, seeing if the deal actually holds up is another question.
neither did the russian F5E
I can understand his feeling, but his claim also sounds a bit disappointing because
We already gave Spitfire, Firefly or some Crusaders to the other TT before
And we exported harriers to the US too.
But we didn’t lose our Uniqueness at all.
(Of course these can be annoying for some of us. right?)
the F5 is at least a cool plane that wasn’t a pile of scrap like soviet vehicles are
we also sent centurions to every continent and its not taken away from our uniqueness as we are still the home nation for those vehicles. the spam of commieslop from the indian subtree does hurt uniqueness tho
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yep a cool American plane
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Still irrelevant. We’re talking about the foreign vehicles that served in the Red Army with actual combat records, which makes this suggestion more valid than others. The debate about the Soviet F-5E should stay in its own topic since it required different opinion there, not here.
Looks good! Though I have one quibble. The Matilda doesn’t have a hull MG, and the coaxial is a 7.92mm BESA, not an M1919. Other than that, great post, and since we already have the Russian Valentine and 76mm Matilda, why not the original? +1
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+1
I’d love more lend-lease in the game, exptly to the two nations who seem to have the least of them despite being major recipients of it.
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My first no vote.
My reasoning is that the Matilda is a painful vehicle to grind out due to the poor mobility and stock 2-pdr cannon accuracy and ammo effectiveness, so giving the USSR tree an identical one isn’t fun. It’s also a missed opportunity.
If you’re going to give the USSR tree a British tank because it got them via Lend-Lease, then you should do something interesting and unique with it - give them a version of the Valentine which was experimentally re-armed with the domestic 45mm cannon, so it at least has a good gun. Not sure if they did the same thing with the Matilda, but if so, then I’d vote for that.
Well, the Soviets have Matilda in this game.
[MK-II “Matilda”]
The one which has 76mm F-96 for gun instead.
which was released at 2017 as some kind of event reward premium.
It is unobtainable unless
- you pay to someone who has tickets in Gaijin market
- or spend a fortune amount of SL on [blah-ba blah box] and wish you win one.
So… Matila lovers from east wants regular version instead
maybe?
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The matilda is a pretty good infantry tank tho. two shots and most things are dead and most people cant pen you
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no. ussr already has the mathilda f32. The only acceptable alternative would be a 45mm mathilda.
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45mm Matilda may not exist, but there is another:
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that i would support, and not another souless CP.
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I agree, modified vehicles such as the Soviet uparmored Valentines (and by extension the one with the 45mm) would be much preferable to represent wartime lend-lease without straight copies of existing tanks.
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I have both the Soviet Valentine and the Matilda with the better gun, I see no point in this second Soviet Matilda with the puny gun.
I definitely would not spend a penny of real money to obtain it.
I will never understand why some get upset about these lend leased vehicles, they were used in the thousands and is initially what mobilized the Soviets I mass against the Germans. Even if they aren’t added to the tech tree, they deserve as spot as a premium or something of that nature.
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Copy paste simply bloats the game unnecessarily. War Thunder has never been about accurate portrayals of armed forces, and so when adding new vehicles I prefer to have every single vehicle be unique in its own right, whether that be a completely different design or a relatively minor modification.
And with a tree as big as Russia, there are many, many better options for both tech tree and premium spots. If I wanted to play the Matilda, I would go to the British tree, which would also be the better option for a premium version. For Russia I’d prefer to see Russian designed mediums such as the A-20, A-25 (L-10), T-28-57, T-28-85, etc.
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“Copy-paste is bad, and I don’t want to see them in sim.” :/
Their point is also a bit fair because ‘adding whole bunch of captured/leased vehicles’ can make playing the original nation pointless.
(With some joke, it would be great if I could have a whole arsenal of RAFwaffe planes as long as the British have 0 captured vehicles in TT at all, but sadly, it will make German TT less catching.)
But, as I claimed earlier and on some other topic, maybe one or two ‘extremely iconic and widely used’ vehicles can be added and need to be treated well.
(It’s Gaijin’s fault that who just spams copied vehicles for makes player resist further and further.)
IMHO, Soviet matilda with 2pdr is way better idea than those damn funny Kungstiger in SWE TT.
(Gaijin: No King tigers to Frenches because we decided to add no c&p captured vehicle, but adding it to Sweden instead is fine because they didn’t capture King Tiger but bought from french!)
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