Matchmaker is absolute crap

That is if, you think you are good enough to even handle most full downtier matches without trading more than 2 vehicles for one kill, and also ended up losing most of these full downtier matches.

I don’t have a clue what you are saying. I like to play the mid and lower BR ranges, so playing in a full downtier I think is unfair, since those matches are made up of mostly inexperienced players.

Do you win most of the matches where you have a +1br vehicle and you are placed in the top three in scorecard? if you are as bad as me then we are being bullied, not bullying lol

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No, I’m an average player at best. I just feel like I should sit out matches with a +1 BR advantage, I also think playing in those matches makes me worse, because I can get away with things I couldn’t normally, and I develop bad habits.

Scale BR on x-axis, scale “% of player plays this BR” on the y-axis.
As long as you have more players to the right than to the left of your BR, you will be uptiered proportionately. How else would it work?
You want the places, where more players are to the left

So your basically addressing that you’re lack of experience and use of your, let’s say mighty KingTiger(H) make you unavailable to provide a good fight.

And then, you use that “fact”, to say matchmaker is horrible?

First of all, what if war was to continue againt USA or Russian for let’s say 3/4 years longer?
The KingTiger(H) would have become the basic tank of german army, while all the “modern” stuff you fight were the one of the USA.

Therefore,… it no WWII vs Modern tank at 7.0-8.0,…
It’s What Germany could have been provided vs Other country stuff.

Oh, you’ve dicovered that Technology is costly?
Good,… maybe you should see the difference between your Phone 20 years ago, and the one of today.

Same problem, so nothing to do about it.

If it’s technologically higher, shouldn’t you made more kills instead? Shouldn’t you might be able to shoot from, let’s say farther away, because of your better gun at ranges?

The problem mostly come from the one thing, between a chair and a screen, that is expending it’s will to not see what they’re doing wrong.

It was my problem before, then i accepted it, then i got better.
Do the same and you’ll be able to overcome it.

Couple of months ago when I was still playing ground RB a lot I logged the tier of every game I played. round about 80% of my games were full uptiers, that’s why I stopped seriously playing ground RB unless I’m just messing around with friends.

Whilst you may see this, the premise you’re ignoring is the range of BR you are sitting in, and the overall popularity of the range you reside in.

If there are a heap of the newest and greatest, then you’re going to end up facing issues.

There’s no big conspiracy to make you face these issues.

Yeah you’re right. I’ll just shut my unskilled mouth about unfair up tiers with early cold war vehicles are that ruin the fun of the game for a lot of players. As long as your having fun no one gets to complain right?

There are only two stances on this forum, the fanboys that everything is fine with them because they have been going for 10 years and those overwhelmed by the uptiers.

The game is not designed to be fair and will not change. My advice is to take it or leave it.

9.3 Germany is almost 100% full uptiers to 10.3 at the moment due to the T-80UD spam from the last sale.

Bro what do you mean? I love my 99.7% uptiers

It’s not only the T-80UD, the m1128 exists.

There’s no infestation of those at the moment though.

Wdym I see them rather commonly, even more so, I always see 10.7 with Leo 2 and M1 KVT spam

Pretty much every premium tank is the most common. At their br. Just as the Tam 2IP is.

Well it’s physically impossible for 9.3 to see 10.7, however I imagine putting the Ozelot/Gepard 1A2 into my lineup will see me fighting Leo 2’s, Abrams and T-80’s most of the time.

Well I wasn’t implying 9.3 sees 10.7 but the point is:

10.7 → 11.7 commonly

9.3 → 10.3 commonly

8.7 → 9.3 commonly

7.7 → 8.7 commonly

6.7 → 7.7 commonly

5.7 → 6.7 commonly

See a pattern? Where all the premiums sit is where all the uptiers go.

Fun, fair, and all of this is interpretational… The BR difference doesn’t actually make the situation, but the pre-thinking, assumption, and the esposed fear to others is actually detrimental, because when someone who is struggling has a match with someone who makes the statement about the upteir, then they too will think to check it.

The more failure, the more confirmation some will have from then on.

Then at some stage where you try and highlight to someone that all isn’t lost, they get all snotty and upset because they have tried so much apparently, but they’ve just been deadset fed the negativity about how it will all play out, because people said it would play out in that manner.

These sorts of threads, are only serving one purpose and one purpose only, to harvest anger and rage, because the thread is posed with no nuetrality, it’s already defined.

You’re right, fun is interpretational. But the issue I and many others have is when we say: “We aren’t having fun because x, y, z”, players come and say too bad, learn to enjoy it, or get good, or skill issue, etc. There is no back and forth. No genuine discussion.

Look at this thread for example. The poster complained about up tiers ruining the his fun of the game and the first post, yours, stated that it isn’t actually an issue, it’s all in his head because he is fixating on it. I responded by giving you actual data, I checked over a hundred matches in the span of a few weeks and found that vast majority if 6.7-8.3 games I played were up tiers. To which you replied, that it’s just because the range is popular and there is no conspiracy. No one claimed there was one. You mentioned these posts have no neutrality and yet from the start you did the same thing.

I would however disagree that fair is interpretational. fair means two players meeting each other on the battlefield have equal chances of winning, based on armour values, gun caliber or rounds, mobility etc. If I am playing my T-54 (1947) at a BR of 7.7 and I constantly face Turm III’s with better mobility, ammo, and a stabilizer, I am at a disadvantage in just about every category. Another example is the Leopard 1 at 8.0 fighting T-62 M-1 at 9.0 the situation is the same. I might be slightly faster but He has reaction advantage because he has stabilizer and his gun absolutely wrecks me whereas I have to carefully aim for specific weak spots. That can’t be interpretational, that is unfair by the very definition of the word.

The purpose of posts like these aren’t always to gather rage bait but to show that many players are unhappy with the current status quo. What turns it into annoyance and rage is when your told that: “I don’t mind it so stop complaining”. It’s the same with team killing in Air RB. Players have been complaining about it for ages, and the response has been lackluster at best.

Most of us aren’t complaining because we hate the game, it’s because we want it to succeed. We want our friends to play too and new players to join but unfortunately many of the issues players like that have is ignored. In fact they get insulted for raising the issues they experience. This community is very toxic. I don’t see how anyone who reads the forums regularly can deny it.