Not an issue
Due to recent decompression LAV could easily go to 11.0 with buffed up Stingers.
At that BR it will face things that can simply stay out of it’s range and do CAS without any fear.
This is nonsense
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I want my 20G stingers in my Gepard, Ozelot and UHT. Imagine having to hold back an already awful system because they would have to go up in BR. They are also missing photo contrast mode and greater lock range against helicopters.
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Yes, it would be nonsense to buff Stingers and practically achieve nothing in terms of playability of systems like LAV-AD.
you literally said that buffing the lav-ad would need to put it at a br where the buffs are irrelevant, you realize how nonsensical that statement is?
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Not really.
Stingers getting better would mean it’s foes would get better as well, so a vehicle like LAV-AD won’t really improve on it’s efficiency.
Something like a Machbet could become really good, as it’s already pretty low in BR.
It’s “foes” aren’t other spaas, but other aircraft, aircraft which can already bully the lav ad of semi competent.
Yes, nothing will change in terms of bullying even with buffed Stingers.
Totally unneeded change for LAV-AD specifically.
Nothing is bullied by stingers lmao. Strela is literally 10.3 higher btw
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Did I say this anywhere in our conversation ?
I suggest reading more carefully next time.
Strela is at 10.3, and ?
Remember when the Igla was like 9.0 and terrorized early jets in GRB? I think it’s time for Stingers to do the same :)
Also, it’s not like the Stinger slingers haven’t moved up since. The only AAs to benefit would be the Gepard and Ozelot the most.
LAV-AD wouldn’t even move in BR because it doesn’t even have a radar to begin with and my TIGER UHT is suffering with these gimped Stingers at top tier.
spaded the Stormer-AD not that long ago, frustrating how inconsistant they are, and a large chunk of the shots that missed can probably be blamed on them just not being able to get on target and missing, especially little targets like drones.
Even if they only pulled 20-22G for the first few second it would be a massive buff. And yeah, the lock ranges were just stupid.
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Yeah the missile would not be able to pull 20G overloads while mid-flight, it’s physically impossible for such design to do so, but I can certainly believe it can achieve it during launch. The reason Strelas are so deadly is because of their aggressive fin AOA, larger warhead and speed. Stingers would still be inferior in almost every way, a BR increase is not necessary.
Yep, agreed.
Some of the lower BR ones, like the Gepard/Ozelot maybe would need to go up to 10.0 to match the LAV-AD and Stormer-AD, but yes, I agree. Strela would still beat them all quite comfortably, and so 0 need to go past 10.0 on any stinger slinger.
And them then ZSUs can go up as well, those are criminally under BRed
Roland and mistral should be reverted in br, assuming Mistral 1 is fixed
Mistral 3 can then serve as a stop gap between Mistral 1 and ITO
Mistral 1 overload is already fantasy currently, and it decelerates too fast (bug report pending)
Mistral 3 range is 8km officially (they shot down a drone at 12 in spain, but Gaijin won’t take it for sure, which is understandable). Mistral 3 is already better in basically every area compared to Roland (speed, overload, range), and Mistral 1 is shorter range but better in speed and overload still
I never knew radar is prerequisite to move up from 10.0.
Hot take : the Roland at 10.0 is a good SAM with the new(ish) radar control screen. Give the French one its corrected elevation (and the actual tracking radar) and it’d be excellent
Mistral is performing really weirdly right now to the point of it being a clear downgrade to the 92K.
You simply don’t know if it’s going to hit or not, as it’s extremely unreliable past the first 2km or so. I’ve seen it miss incoming afk targets that had periodic flares turned on when launched from like 4km away, which is absurd.
If it was fixed i guess it could be at the same br compared to a fixed Mistral
And some sort of CTA40 AA could fill the gap at 9.0 or something