MANPADS Missiles and Overload: The Technical Details

It’s been a year by the way.

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And we all saw you stated 2S38 is super unbalanced super OP but didn’t even managed to get 1.0 K/D.

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Then why bother killing anything ?

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Well i can’t just leave blatant lie alone there must be response so it won’t confuse people

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Your response to it shows otherwise

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I mean, this is just unfair… They provided the proof and it got accepted so why has nothing changed??? Isn’t that what they want us to do? When we complain about something they forward us to the bug reporting forum but this shows nothing happens anyway.

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I don’t wanna get into the potential for Russian bias but i find this highly ironic:

Because it is something people have done as seen here:

Since they are accepted something SHOULD happen yet it has not. I don’t find it irrational that we keep discussing the problems with the stinger if nothing has happened yet even though they are accepted. What more can we really do?

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Problem is in the game engine it cannot change missile characteristics during flight so compromise has been picked to set average characteristics instead of maximal and thus we have a underperforming missiles like R-77 with bloated resistance in supersonic speeds and Igla and Stinger and so on.

Every one is gimped but some people here have grandeur delusions so it’s hard them to see that.

Once again The G-Averaging Coefficient should only impact Rolling Airframes Missiles, that use an “Open” feedback loop for guidance corrections, and Bang-Bang Actuators. As the Igla does as outlined in the above article.

The Stinger (and with a very high likelihood the Mistral as well) use both a “Closed” Feedback Loop, and Proportional Actuators, and as such should not be impacted by the G-Averaging Coefficient that has been erroneously and arbitrarily applied, as is evident in the relevant referenced report.

I’m open to comment on where exactly you think any of the following report could be improved, or where the sources do not support any of the claims made.

Due to length constraints on the portal many of the non-primary sources and supporting evidence had to be stripped to make it fix the character and image limits, there is much more supporting evidence if you want it.

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According to the invention, a rolling airframe autopilot has been devised wherein a single linear accelerometer provides adequate feed-back to stabilize a rolling airframe. According to a further precept of the invention, a pitch rate sensor may be incorporated with the linear accelerometer to damp the control signals and thereby to permit higher maneuverability without over stressing the airframe or components.

Why ? It says it has better manueverability it can pull more G but it doesn’t says that it not dependant on roll rate am i missing something ?

Because unlike the Igla & Redeye The actuators of the FIM-92 are not a binary system (Bang-Bang), thus the angle of attack of the fins can be modulated in concert with the instantaneous roll rate to create a net force in any direction (nominally aligned with direction commanded by the seeker) regardless of where they are in the rotation.

From US4054254A (“Rolling airframe autopilot”)

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