MANPADS Missiles and Overload: The Technical Details

I honestly think that’s describing dead on what’s been happening. They just didn’t consider a bit more thoroughly what the hell they were actually doing :D

I can only repeat what I did for the past 7 years. The development needs what we call in the industry “some proper f***ing standards” and a clear rulebook by which these standards can be applied to new evidence as well as changed if they turn out to be not adequate - but only then.

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What alwis is doing right now is derailing the thread to make it full of off topic arguments so the real information that was posted earlier will be harder to find.

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The people I usually see liking messages are a group attacking one person (who may or may not be right). In this case Alvis is not in the wrong… he just took a method I personally wouldn’t have to engage with the issue.

You and the people “liking” the posts are derailing him further. Leave it be.

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sry i just get really pissed if someone turns my words into something i never said and then calls me things like Russian Main/Shill or NATO Hater

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but back to the topic i semi checked Gaijins Math on the Stinger and the turn radius seems to be some weird number thats not listed anywhere while in any Document only the Maximum Radius is listed So far Speed and Range is correct but radius and thus Overload is not

Just got the 2s38 and my god its disgusting, 9 kill game and I dont even know how to fully use it yet. Its turret rotation, survival and post pen are just insane, and its resdy rack replenishment is stupid. Why the hell does the HSTVL take 20s per shell and this is .5s

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And hulldown behind hard cover it’s so strong it’s not even funny.

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Your statcard. Looks similar to your HSTV-L performance.

Two aren’t really comparable
You’re comparing apples and oranges here

Closer equivalent would be Begleitpanzer 57 or Strf9040

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Well → i never saw Goofy missiles on Russian Sides.

Remember that Magic-II was immediately bug reported for the dual plan steering.

Yet now that R-73 use Thrust-Vectoring, we are still waiting for Magic-II to have 50G peak maneuvrability.

→ being goofy is always for one side ←

And T-2k exemple you gave → MiG-19 was able to “supercruise” (mach 1 with no Afterburner), for about 2.5 years

The problem was that Japan was in waiting for much more modern aircrafts and had nothing else to have → how to make people grind Japan if nothing was attractive?

That’s also because they add the T-2k to the line than most FM of Japan aircrafts which were UFOs got fixed.

I’m still waiting T-4 trainners today as attack aircrafts

I’m also in the wait of MiG-21 F-13 and PFM to go back to 10.0 BR, were they belong → MiG-21 F-13 is so easy that i’m having 2 KD without even tryharding,… just flying casually.

→ the Bias is present,… until now they were hidding it, while today, they say it out-loud in front of the community.

It’s normal to see people reacting over this massive issue now that they made it clear.

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The most interesting thing to come from this and the whole Abrams armor issue is Gaijin’s adamant stance on what is a clearly bad take. How many comments later of this clearly being a no-go, unliked, unpopular line of reasoning and game decision and they’re sticking with it.

Thats the kicker, at least for me. I don’t think it’s a ludicrous idea for a developer to come back to this and be like “Yikes. Okay. Clearly we missed the mark here. We are going to revisit this” either in the form of a better explanation, a better justification, or even just course correction.

Forum moderators and community managers have stated time and time again “we are always passing along feedback and suggestions to the devs” and I just have to know, what from this entire thread is calling for the “stay the course”?

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“We don’t understand why the Stingers and Mistrals are superior to Iglas, so they aren’t.”

-Gaijin’s “experts” (also, incidently, Russian missile engineers)

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You know it’s bad when even TEC finds gaijins actions questionable.

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On one hand, some of you are nasty towards Gaijin.

On the other, I feel like they kinda earned that by their attitude towards the player base.

No real discussion. I’d be surprised to see their answers to our replies.
Ignoring sources.
Blatant ignoring of bug reports.
Hypocrisy.

Gaijin, you need to get better.

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First off, I’ll clarify that I’m one of your precious whales. You know, the 1% you claim spend money on the game (not that anymore remotely believes that).

This thread is embarrassing, and your repeated attempts to justify your assumptions are particularly so. Please stop it.

If you don’t have stats for a vehicle, don’t put it in the fucking game. No magic made up 2S, no magic made up top tier, no magic made up bollocks.

I won’t be spending money any further until you people sort your crap out with this obvious Russian bias.

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Gaijin logic – “If Russian engineers can’t do it, no one can”

Peak Russian Bias.

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So let me get this straight: russian sources can be taken seriously and sources stating technical stats of nato equipment are just assumed to be false?

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What the hell is your point and what are you even filtering by lol

Youre proving that US top tier is shit

  1. Youre not even filtering by my best stuff

  2. Youre disgusting. Just get out of here. Trying to shut someone up over some video game stats?

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Oh are you talking about my 2s38 stats? I have like 5 games in it lol.

The HSTVL is shit in comparison, get out of here

Dont even come at me with that. If in my first 5 games I can do that well, something is wrong. I dont even know what im doing yet with it, meanwhile with the HSTVL you have to play full metal god to even be relevant. Give me a bit more, that 2s38 will be at the top of my stats bracket

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personal stats mean nothing in the big picture it just shows that you can perform well in it but if anything you just got gets a very good KDR right away then something is wrong and i also agree the 2S38 is too strong for its BR when looking at other Auto Cannon only Vehicles at its own BR

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