Man-in-the-Loop: Guidance Mode for Munitions with TV and IR Seekers

F-CK-1 shouldve come as one of the first ARH carriers for china lol

The place that use it is called Taiwan thats how

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Why? Lower tiers of Chinese air and ground trees are majority Soviet and Western vehicles provided to both PRC and ROC, why does it “feel just wrong” at top tier? PRC gets a flanker + flanker based aircraft and ROC continues to get Western jets like the Mirage

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The most reasonable solution would be the possibility of not being able to lock onto the corpses, thus solving this stupid dilemma.

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F-16V?

Because they get almost everything that’s good from other countries. Anything that’s honestly ROC I would just rip from them because it’s either CCP, or it’s Taiwan.

If you don’t want to play Russia, or the U.S., or Japan. You basically get everything from them.

Jf-17 is a great aircraft, J-10 is a great aircraft. If you wanna fly french aircraft, you get the Mirage 2000, you get the F-16A MLU. Props, You get the Ki-44-II. One of the most broken planes, if not the most broken plane of 3.7.

You get some of the U.S’s best props with the P-47D-30. You get F-86F-40 AND The Mig-17.

The F-100A is a great aircraft with the AIM-9E. but you also get the Mig-19. You get the J-7E at 11.3 that literally almost flies like an F-16A. Again. 11.3 Oh, and you get the F-5E too.

You get one of the most broken Premiums at 13.3.

Yeah, you’ll get a stinker here and there.

The tanks China gets are great. Hell, VT4A1 gets an APS system. But now, you have an admixture of western styled MBTs and access to Warsaw-pact styled tanks. So you literally can swap to a mobility playstyle and the swap to soviet styled tanks for holding a point. You get the best of both worlds. Heck, you get access to U.S. Vehicles that not even the U.S. tree gets which makes it feel like an extra slap to the face.

Blew your cover there, gaijin employee

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You just don’t like the fact that I’m right.

Yes

If you think so, I just don’t feel like having a massive off topic argument, have a nice day though

Dumb question, but is MITL guidance/queueing limited in the same way as TGPs are in distance?

As in, is it limited to ~30 km? Or as far as the seeker of said munition can see?

You still need a POINT lock for the initial launch right now, so yes. Far more reliable to get that to switch to a TRACK lock with MitL, though.

Oooh, Good question

Let me go yeet a Spice-250 from 40km away

you can still get POINT beyond 30 km depending on line of sight or size of target

for example, a ship is ez, but a tank requires u to get closer

POINT lock is ground, TRACK lock is vehicles, the latter depends on target size, yeah. But none of these ranges changed.

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Or you can jsut pick a target at the map, and yeet it. MITL works then too

The TV/IR seeker still needs to lock that first. You can’t launch using INS/GNSS.

Testing it now, fired at a target 40km away with Spice-250, see where it goes standby

Just fired a Spice-250 from 40-45km. If you do nothing, it just flies onwards for basically forever

But if you use the MITL when the target is in the FoV (from a level flight) you can set a target point and it will go to that point, its a bit fiddly but does work

Just repeated with a 50+km shot.

So yeah:

Fire towards the target

switch to MITL and update the target point, this seems to have unlimited range

Then when the bomb switches from level flight to a dive, you can theoretically update it again to switch to a specific target.

So if nothing changes, we have LOAL at pretty extreme ranges, even if it initially requires LoS of the target

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In case anyone was wondering

  • If you launch multiple munitions, the MitL guided one is the one you launched last
  • If the actively controlled munition gets shot down/impacts it will switch to the last launched one that’s still in the air

Yeah, that was sort of to be expected. I was really hoping for INS/GNSS launches to become possible, though. That way you could also ripple off a large quantity way faster.